I saw this video a while back of Glenn 'Senator Nado' Shadix, who died a few days ago. It's a very moving story, as long as you're not distracted by his weirdly-mobile eyebrows...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gIUnr2gojU

Neil M.

Very cool. I love the carded Cornelius in his suit & some of the unusual characters you've included. Nice job.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "renegade_37115" <keaneau2@...> wrote:
>
> Apes...go into new photos or view all photos.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mlccougar" <mlccougar@> wrote:
> >
> > *** Where are they? I didn't see them in the "photos" or "files"... ***
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "renegade_37115" <keaneau2@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi fellow apeheads ;) I just added photos of a rather large collection I have of vintage and custom POTA megos. Some are carded and some are not quite ready yet. Take a look and tell me what you think.
> > >
> >
>

.html <.html

*** Agreed... And while I'm still not a big fan of most of the MARVEL
comics stories, it is cool to see customs of some of those figures being made...
***


In a message dated 9/10/2010 3:40:22 PM Central Daylight Time,
DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

> Very cool. I love the carded Cornelius in his suit & some of the unusual
> characters you've included. Nice job.

</HTML>

.html <.html

.html

Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group
Title:		Planet of the Apes TV series Premier
Date:		Monday September 13, 2010
Time:		All Day
Repeats:		This event repeats every year.
Notes:		The Planet of the Apes Television show premiered on this day in 1974
Yahoo! Greetings:		Send a Yahoo! Greeting
Yahoo! Shopping:		Browse Yahoo! Shopping Gift Guide
Get reminders on your mobile, Yahoo! Messenger, and email. Edit reminder options

Copyright © 2010  Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved | <.html

.html <.html

Attachments :

Who Shot Mr Burns Lamp Running Away.jpg
Who Shot Mr Burns Close Up.jpg

.html <.html

Attachments :

.html <.html

.html <.html

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Michael & Sally < mswhitty@...> wrote:

OOOOOookay….

We've had a major breakthrough with the Japanese Anime Comics.

We have a translator who is going at a very fast rate.

It's really hard to justify this project now because Neil and I are consumed with some new books and the next issue of the Forbidden Zine.

So the question is – is this really worth our time and effort?

I mean it's just an adaptation of the movies…nothing original (except the really wacky parts). Do we NEED to see them translated?

I'd appreciate some input so we can make an informed decision.

Michael

Your best bet would have been to simply get 4 identical new nice looking
frames and then remove that one cell from it's original frame.

Speaking of frames, I've been framing a lot of my POTA stuff as well
picking up the odd frame here and there. Creating my own little 'Wall of
POTA' once I have them all framed. Two correct sized frames that elude
my are the nice litho's you sent me. The good news is that I've framed
most of my Revolution original art and some nice original Foster art.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael & Sally <mswhitty@...>
Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:24 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Planet of the Apes SIMPSONS Animation Cels - A
Fish Named Selma. [2 Attachments]

> OK fuck it I'll answer myself.
>
>
>
> Here's a cel I bought for around $1,500 in (I think) 1996.
>
>
>
> Also attached is a close-up of the "logo" that it came with.
>
>
>
> I have 3 POTA Simpsons Cels I wanted to frame but I always wanted
> them to
> match this and it was always too difficult and/or too expensive
> (there's 4
> different borders!).
>
>
>
> Anyone want to know how I solved it?
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Michael & Sally
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2010 8:42 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Planet of the Apes SIMPSONS Animation Cels - A
> Fish Named
> Selma.
> Importance: High
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey - did anyone get cels from this episode? Does anyone know
> where they
> are available?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
<http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId
> =58136/stime=1284460908/nc1=3858794/nc2=3848614/nc3=5522124>
>
>
>
>

Not sure how I feel about the Japanese comics. If anything, it's the
deviations from what we know of the story that would make it
interesting. From the scans you showed us a while back, I assumed that
there was a lot of weird stuff going on in there.

Now that you have a translator, what would it take to get the word
'bubbles' changed? Have all the pages been scanned or is that something
else that would have to be done. IIRC there was some worry that the wear
and tear of the scanning process would perhaps damage the original. I
guess there is not much you can do with translated text unless you can
somehow get a scan into which you can replace the text.

But the best thing by far in your post was "Neil and I are
consumed with ... THE NEXT ISSUE OF THE FORBIDDEN ZINE"

Yes!

Put me down for one.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael & Sally <mswhitty@...>
Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:39 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Japanese Anime

> OOOOOookay..
>
>
>
> We've had a major breakthrough with the Japanese Anime Comics.
>
>
>
> We have a translator who is going at a very fast rate.
>
>
>
> It's really hard to justify this project now because Neil and I are
> consumedwith some new books and the next issue of the Forbidden Zine.
>
>
>
> So the question is - is this really worth our time and effort?
>
> I mean it's just an adaptation of the movies.nothing original
> (except the
> really wacky parts). Do we NEED to see them translated?
>
> I'd appreciate some input so we can make an informed decision.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>

*** You sold all of them? ***


In a message dated 9/16/2010 8:24:49 AM Central Daylight Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

> Anyone want to know how I solved it?

</HTML>

*** I'd like to see them completely translated... ***


In a message dated 9/16/2010 8:39:57 AM Central Daylight Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

> I mean it's just an adaptation of the movies…nothing original (except
> the really wacky parts). Do we NEED to see them translated?
>

</HTML>

.html <.html

.html <.html

Attachments :

simpsons pota logo full.bmp

.html <.html

From a picture of the target from some '70s POTA shooting thingy, I just removed the target lines etc.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Neil - where's this from?

.html

Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group
Title:		Roddy McDowall's Birthday
Date:		Friday September 17, 2010
Time:		All Day
Repeats:		This event repeats every year.
Notes:		Happy Birthday Roddy! (Cornelius: planet of the Apes (1968), Escape from the POTA (1971) Caesar: Conquest of the POTA (1972), Battle for the POTA (1973) Galen: Planet of the Apes TV series (1974))
Yahoo! Greetings:		Send a Yahoo! Greeting
Yahoo! Shopping:		Browse Yahoo! Shopping Gift Guide
Get reminders on your mobile, Yahoo! Messenger, and email. Edit reminder options

Copyright © 2010  Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved | <.html

.html <.html

Attachments :

DSC04861.JPG
DSC04860.JPG
DSC04859.JPG

Just uploaded it to the files section.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Do you have a pic of the shooting thingy?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> munkeyman63au
> Sent: Friday, 17 September 2010 1:50 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home Page Pic
>
>
>
>
>
> From a picture of the target from some '70s POTA shooting thingy, I just
> removed the target lines etc.
>
> Neil T.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Michael &
> Sally" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Neil - where's this from?
>

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:43 AM, munkeyman63au <ntfoster@... > wrote:

Just uploaded it to the files section.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Do you have a pic of the shooting thingy?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> munkeyman63au
> Sent: Friday, 17 September 2010 1:50 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home Page Pic
>
>
>
>
>
> From a picture of the target from some '70s POTA shooting thingy, I just
> removed the target lines etc.
>
> Neil T.
>

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com > , "Michael &

> Sally" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Neil - where's this from?
>

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /shooting gallery URSUS.jpg
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
Description :

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/shooting%20gallery%20URSUS.jpg

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/forms/general.htmliles

Regards,

munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>

I could go either way. I'm curious & would like to know the translation to find out what the hell they were thinking but it's also cooler (& creepier) in Japanese & having no idea what's going on in those wacky parts.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
>
> OOOOOookay..
>
>
>
> We've had a major breakthrough with the Japanese Anime Comics.
>
>
>
> We have a translator who is going at a very fast rate.
>
>
>
> It's really hard to justify this project now because Neil and I are consumed
> with some new books and the next issue of the Forbidden Zine.
>
>
>
> So the question is - is this really worth our time and effort?
>
> I mean it's just an adaptation of the movies.nothing original (except the
> really wacky parts). Do we NEED to see them translated?
>
> I'd appreciate some input so we can make an informed decision.
>
>
>
> Michael
>

Attachments :

DSC04870.JPG
DSC04863.JPG

*** I like him... Although I'd like him more if he were 1/9 (Mego) scale...
;) ***



In a message dated 9/17/2010 11:48:05 PM Central Daylight Time,
jessicarotich@... writes:

>
> There's a human head under all that makeup, BTW because I was too lazy to
> sculpt from scratch. For fun I am also attaching a photo of the ugly guy
> that is under there.
>
> Jess.
>
> Attachment(s) from jessica rotich
> 2 of 2 Photo(s)
> <IMG SRC="http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/8605785/tn/1321067670" WIDTH="96"
> HEIGHT="72" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="1831">
> <A
> HREF=" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/attachments/folder/105226664/item/1321067670/view" >DSC04870.JPG</A>
>
> <IMG SRC="http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/8605785/tn/1745331414" WIDTH="96"
> HEIGHT="72" BORDER="0" DATASIZE="1544">
> <A
> HREF=" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/attachments/folder/105226664/item/1745331414/view" >DSC04863.JPG</A>
>
>
>
>

</HTML>

I was just asking someone last week about doing the translation - I had no luck, so this is great news. I'd love to see the translation but I know the book is huge and reads backwards, so there'd be a lot of work involved, right? It would be great to see it done properly, but maybe a compromise would be to share the original pages with translations attached to the bottom of the page or something like that? Might be less time-consuming.

Neil M.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
>
> OOOOOookay..
>
>
>
> We've had a major breakthrough with the Japanese Anime Comics.
>
>
>
> We have a translator who is going at a very fast rate.
>
>
>
> It's really hard to justify this project now because Neil and I are consumed
> with some new books and the next issue of the Forbidden Zine.
>
>
>
> So the question is - is this really worth our time and effort?
>
> I mean it's just an adaptation of the movies.nothing original (except the
> really wacky parts). Do we NEED to see them translated?
>
> I'd appreciate some input so we can make an informed decision.
>
>
>
> Michael
>

Actually, that's a good idea.

The person doing the translation must be writing it out as they
translate and capturing it in electronic form (a word doc or something)
then scans of each page could be imported above the text for that page.
It would make for a large file though.

Michael, is the comic broken down into chapters or some other smaller
sized chunks? It may be easier to split the work into sections.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Moxham <neilmoxham@...>
Date: Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:45 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Japanese Anime

> I was just asking someone last week about doing the translation - I
> had no luck, so this is great news. I'd love to see the translation
> but I know the book is huge and reads backwards, so there'd be a
> lot of work involved, right? It would be great to see it done
> properly, but maybe a compromise would be to share the original
> pages with translations attached to the bottom of the page or
> something like that? Might be less time-consuming.
>
> Neil M.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
> >
> > OOOOOookay..
> >
> >
> >
> > We've had a major breakthrough with the Japanese Anime Comics.
> >
> >
> >
> > We have a translator who is going at a very fast rate.
> >
> >
> >
> > It's really hard to justify this project now because Neil and I
> are consumed
> > with some new books and the next issue of the Forbidden Zine.
> >
> >
> >
> > So the question is - is this really worth our time and effort?
> >
> > I mean it's just an adaptation of the movies.nothing original
> (except the
> > really wacky parts). Do we NEED to see them translated?
> >
> > I'd appreciate some input so we can make an informed decision.
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

.html <.html

.html <.html

.html <.html

Hi, folks,

If anyone has any Planet of the Apes news you'd like to get out there, be it site updates, fanzine releases, Rise of the Apes news, or any other Apes-related tidbits, please feel free to let me know. We've added a section for news headlines at http://www.hassleinbooks.com, and I'd be happy to add any announcements from my fellow POTA fans, to help spread the word about your creative efforts.

Rich

*** Would something like that be printable? I know it might be a pain in
the a** to have it printed and distibuted that way, but as I've said before:
Doing any major reading on a computer monitor is not cool... That's why I
don't like the idea of "online" fanzines or anything like that... ***




In a message dated 9/18/2010 6:33:35 PM Central Daylight Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

> I think we'll do a web presentation where you scroll the mouse over the
> word balloon…or something….

</HTML>

.html

Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group
Title:		Paul Williams' Birthday
Date:		Sunday September 19, 2010
Time:		All Day
Repeats:		This event repeats every year.
Notes:		Happy Birthday Paul! (Virgil: Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973))
Yahoo! Greetings:		Send a Yahoo! Greeting
Yahoo! Shopping:		Browse Yahoo! Shopping Gift Guide
Get reminders on your mobile, Yahoo! Messenger, and email. Edit reminder options

Copyright © 2010  Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved | <.html

.html <.html

Great work Jess. Really impressive!!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> There's a human head under all that makeup, BTW because I was too lazy to
> sculpt from scratch. For fun I am also attaching a photo of the ugly guy
> that is under there.
>
> Jess.
>

Fantastic Jess !!

Best,G

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Muppet John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> Great work Jess. Really impressive!!
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich jessicarotich@ wrote:
> >
> > There's a human head under all that makeup, BTW because I was too
lazy to
> > sculpt from scratch. For fun I am also attaching a photo of the ugly
guy
> > that is under there.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
>

.html <.html

.html
<.html

.html
<.html

.html
<.html

.html
<.html

*** If they used actual dialog from the movie, I wonder how much of it
might have gotten messed up... Sometimes a lot is lost thru translation... ***



In a message dated 9/19/2010 1:36:18 PM Central Daylight Time,
apefan23@... writes:

> it does seem like a lot of it would be dialog from the movie but I would
> love to know what they are saying through all that weird stuff !
>

</HTML>

Yes that's correct, six chapters. They vary in size though, they all have about 31 pages except chapter 1 which has 38 and chapter 3 which has 91 pages!

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
>
> It is broken down into chapters yes...about 6 I think. Neil????

The only problem is that there will be about 250 pages to print!

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> *** Would something like that be printable? I know it might be a pain in
> the a** to have it printed and distibuted that way, but as I've said before:
> Doing any major reading on a computer monitor is not cool... That's why I
> don't like the idea of "online" fanzines or anything like that...

Yes, excellent.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
> Fantastic Jess !!
>
> Best,G
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Muppet John" <DrZaiusDavis@> wrote:
> >
> > Great work Jess. Really impressive!!
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich jessicarotich@ wrote:
> > >
> > > There's a human head under all that makeup, BTW because I was too
> lazy to
> > > sculpt from scratch. For fun I am also attaching a photo of the ugly
> guy
> > > that is under there.
> > >
> > > Jess.
> > >
> >
>

You can't just flip the panels though. The actual panels would be put in the right 'western reading order' but all the art in those panels is then backwards, which makes a huge difference as things like the gorillas' bandoliers, just to name one, will all be the wrong way round.

There's no easy way of doing it but I vote for just having a separate translation available for each page BUT that means if you want to print it it will now be 500 pages!

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Neil
>
>
>
> Yes, an AMAZING amount of work to be done.
>
>
>
> It doesn't just read BACKWARDS, but actually from RIGHT to LEFT! So you
> have to actually flip every PANEL (not just page) to make it work LEFT TO
> RIGHT.
>
>
>
> I think we'll do a web presentation where you scroll the mouse over the word
> balloon.or something..
>
>
>
> Any other ideas anyone?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Neil Moxham
> Sent: Sunday, 19 September 2010 2:46 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Japanese Anime
>
>
>
>
>
> I was just asking someone last week about doing the translation - I had no
> luck, so this is great news. I'd love to see the translation but I know the
> book is huge and reads backwards, so there'd be a lot of work involved,
> right? It would be great to see it done properly, but maybe a compromise
> would be to share the original pages with translations attached to the
> bottom of the page or something like that? Might be less time-consuming.
>
> Neil M.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Michael &
> Sally" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > OOOOOookay..
> >
> >
> >
> > We've had a major breakthrough with the Japanese Anime Comics.
> >
> >
> >
> > We have a translator who is going at a very fast rate.
> >
> >
> >
> > It's really hard to justify this project now because Neil and I are
> consumed
> > with some new books and the next issue of the Forbidden Zine.
> >
> >
> >
> > So the question is - is this really worth our time and effort?
> >
> > I mean it's just an adaptation of the movies.nothing original (except the
> > really wacky parts). Do we NEED to see them translated?
> >
> > I'd appreciate some input so we can make an informed decision.
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
>

And don't forget that there is the Battle adaptation and the different version of Planet that are in the smaller manga as well. This version of Planet starts with the first 11 pages dealing with a story about the 5(!) astronauts blasting off and what happens before they land on the Planet of the Apes! It does then follow the movie almost exactly except it ends just after they have escaped from Ape City with Taylor and Nova riding off into the forbidden Zone while Cornelius & Zira hold off the pursuing gorillas with gunfire!!

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> it does seem like a lot of it would be dialog from the movie but I would love to
> know what they are saying through all that weird stuff !
>
>
>
>
>
>

.html <.html

I think the bit with the half a man sewn to half a woman thing which then splits apart is definitely something that was lost in translation!!

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> *** If they used actual dialog from the movie, I wonder how much of it
> might have gotten messed up... Sometimes a lot is lost thru translation... ***

.html <.html

.html <.html

*** I know Whitty already said a printed version pretty much isn't going to
happen, but I'll ask anyway: You said there'd be about 250 pages, but
aren't the Magna pages larger than a standard comic? I'm asking because if the
pictures were made smaller, maybe they could be added to a different page...
By that I mean at regular Magna size, there might be 8 panels, but if they
were condensed a little bit, then maybe there could be 10 panels, etc... ***



In a message dated 9/19/2010 5:06:06 PM Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:

> The only problem is that there will be about 250 pages to print!
>
> Neil T.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
> >
> > *** Would something like that be printable? I know it might be a pain in
> > the a** to have it printed and distibuted that way, but as I've said
> before:
> > Doing any major reading on a computer monitor is not cool... That's why
> I
> > don't like the idea of "online" fanzines or anything like that...
>
>

</HTML>

*** That or the Japanese wanted to put Boulle's experimenting chimps to
shame... They may have been able to tap into Man's lost past, but they couldn't
make the ultimate transvestite... ***



In a message dated 9/19/2010 5:51:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

> Yeah or they were taking some really good drugs….
>
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> munkeyman63au
> Sent: Monday, 20 September 2010 8:47 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Japanese Anime
>
>
>
> I think the bit with the half a man sewn to half a woman thing which then
> splits apart is definitely something that was lost in translation!!
>
>
>
>
>
>

</HTML>

Not very much larger, the manga is 18cm x 25.7cm (and 1.5 cm thick!)

Mucking about rearranging panels for something that's 250 pages long is not something I will be doing though (unless I get a huge amount of cash thrown at me!) ;-)

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> *** I know Whitty already said a printed version pretty much isn't going to
> happen, but I'll ask anyway: You said there'd be about 250 pages, but
> aren't the Magna pages larger than a standard comic? I'm asking because if the
> pictures were made smaller, maybe they could be added to a different page...
> By that I mean at regular Magna size, there might be 8 panels, but if they
> were condensed a little bit, then maybe there could be 10 panels, etc... ***
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/19/2010 5:06:06 PM Central Daylight Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
>
> > The only problem is that there will be about 250 pages to print!
> >
> > Neil T.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@ wrote:
> > >
> > > *** Would something like that be printable? I know it might be a pain in
> > > the a** to have it printed and distibuted that way, but as I've said
> > before:
> > > Doing any major reading on a computer monitor is not cool... That's why
> > I
> > > don't like the idea of "online" fanzines or anything like that...
> >
> >
>
> </HTML>
>

Attachments :

Whitty as a manga gorilla.jpg

.html <.html

.html <.html

Attachments :

Troy Gorillas.jpg
Troy Gorillas Close Up.jpg

.html <.html

From: "Laura LaPalme" < LLaPalme@...>

>
> First, below is a link to a benefit that Naughton did for the
> Christopher and Dana Reeve Foundation last year. On the right,
> underneath the video screen, people can scroll directly to Naughton's
> performance where he does two songs from his cabaret act.
>
> If your readers want to see more of his act and they'll be in Florida
> next week, he'll be performing with Joan Rivers on Tuesday, February
> 16th at the Van Wezel Center (www.vanwezel.org) and on Wednesday, Feb.
> 17th at the Kravis Center in West Palm Beach (www.kravis.org). On
> Friday and Saturday, Feb. 19th and 20th, he'll be performing his entire
> solo act which is now called "Duke Ellington to Randy Newman (and a lot
> more in-between)" at the Naples Philharmonic Center for four
> performances. (www.thephil.org).
>
> Lately, he's been doing these concerts plus a duo act with fellow Tony
> Award winner Christine Ebersole ("Grey Gardens"). In late March, he'll
> be at the 92nd St. "Y" in New York City doing a salute to the songs of
> Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers. Besides singing, perhaps your readers
> will get a rare chance of seeing Pete Burke doing a few dance steps,
> too.
>
> For the past year, Naughton has had a recurring role as the nasty
> Grandfather of Nate (Chace Crawford) in the WB's hit series "Gossip
> Girl" plus he's been guest starring on Scyfy's "Warehouse 13" and FOX's
> "Damages" where he got to sing "Danny Boy". As of now, he has no other
> TV guest roles coming up but he can still be heard in commercials
> pitching Cialis and Audi cars plus reading many of Robert B. Parker's
> ("Spenser") Jesse Stone series on Audiobooks.
>


> http://www.christopherreeve.org/site/c.ddJFKRNoFiG/b.5764179/k.ACDE/Born
> _for_Broadway.htm

Here's that link without the comma included ;-)

http://www.hassleinbooks.com

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, folks,
>
> If anyone has any Planet of the Apes news you'd like to get out there, be it site updates, fanzine releases, Rise of the Apes news, or any other Apes-related tidbits, please feel free to let me know. We've added a section for news headlines at http://www.hassleinbooks.com, and I'd be happy to add any announcements from my fellow POTA fans, to help spread the word about your creative efforts.
>
> Rich
>

.html <.html

:-) "All creatures great and small..."

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> They must have been, just now going through the 2nd version of Planet I
> noticed that they had drawn you as one of the gorillas Michael, see if you
> can spot which one you are! ;-)
>
>
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally" <mswhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah or they were taking some really good drugs..
>

You got Foster to fake them?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
>
> And here's a few more.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Michael & Sally
> Sent: Friday, 17 September 2010 9:13 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Planet of the Apes SIMPSONS Animation Cels - A Fish
> Named Selma.... [1 Attachment]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Attachment(s) from Michael & Sally included below]
>
> No!
>
>
>
> Here's a hint!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> mlccougar@...
> Sent: Friday, 17 September 2010 3:42 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Planet of the Apes SIMPSONS Animation Cels - A Fish
> Named Selma....
>
>
>
>
>
> *** You sold all of them? ***
>

.html <.html

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:13 PM, munkeyman63au <ntfoster@... > wrote:

Yes, excellent.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
> Fantastic Jess !!
>
> Best,G
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Muppet John" <DrZaiusDavis@> wrote:
> >
> > Great work Jess. Really impressive!!
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich jessicarotich@ wrote:
> > >
> > > There's a human head under all that makeup, BTW because I was too
> lazy to
> > > sculpt from scratch. For fun I am also attaching a photo of the ugly
> guy
> > > that is under there.
> > >
> > > Jess.
> > >
> >
>

Amazing work as usual Jess.

All these years and multiple viewings of POTA and I never noticed the
distinct part in the hair. He probably used a comb.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
Date: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:35 am
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Dr. Honorious 1:6 scale

> I reworked his hairline. I may add more eyebrows, but I'm pretty
> happy with
> how he looks. Gotta finish baking him and cure him now.
>
> Jess.
>
> http://img20.imageshack.us/i/dsc04894a.jpg/
>
> http://img401.imageshack.us/i/dsc04899v.jpg/
>
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:13 PM, munkeyman63au
> <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Yes, excellent.
> >
> > Neil T.
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Graham" <shop@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Fantastic Jess !!
> > >
> > > Best,G
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Muppet John"
> > <DrZaiusDavis@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Great work Jess. Really impressive!!
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>,
> jessica> rotich jessicarotich@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > There's a human head under all that makeup, BTW because I
> was too
> > > lazy to
> > > > > sculpt from scratch. For fun I am also attaching a photo of
> the ugly
> > > guy
> > > > > that is under there.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jess.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

Howdy, folks. The Holy Grail of Planet of the Apes lore has been unearthed--the script to the licensed 1970s U.K. live stage-show production of Planet of the Apes, written by Mike McCarthy.

McCarthy was generous enough to provide me not only with a complete copy of the script, but also other goodies to go with it, including a synopsis of an Apes-based arena show that ran around the same time, an ape-mask theater program handed out to audience members, news clippings, a poster from the show and other fun stuff. All of this has now been uploaded here:

http://www.hassleinbooks.com/liveshow2.html"

Neil Moxham graciously granted permission to mine the images at his Wikia page article about the show, so that I could flesh out the script a bit. (What McCarthy provided was only enough to illustrate about half the script, so I wanted to punch up the rest a bit.) The captions for the images indicate what was provided by McCarthy and what came from the Wikia page.

Enjoy!
Rich

Whitty,

You stocked up at the time... Any idea? ;)</HTML>

One of the rarest items is Broiles' original script, before the studio scavenged it--mainly because it hasn't surfaced yet.

.html

 

I reworked his hairline.  I may add more eyebrows, but I'm pretty happy with how he looks.  Gotta finish baking him and cure him now.

 

Jess.

 

http://img20.imageshack.us/i/dsc04894a.jpg/

 

http://img401.imageshack.us/i/dsc04899v.jpg/

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:13 PM, munkeyman63au < ntfoster@...> wrote:

 

Yes, excellent.

Neil T.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Graham" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
> Fantastic Jess !!
>
> Best,G
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Muppet John" <DrZaiusDavis@> wrote:
> >
> > Great work Jess. Really impressive!!
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , jessica rotich jessicarotich@ wrote:
> > >
> > > There's a human head under all that makeup, BTW because I was too
> lazy to
> > > sculpt from scratch. For fun I am also attaching a photo of the ugly
> guy
> > > that is under there.
> > >
> > > Jess.
> > >
> >
>

<.html

It's surprising how close Urko's speech is compared to the (original full
length) speech Ursus was supposed to give in BENEATH...



In a message dated 9/20/2010 10:43:23 AM Central Daylight Time,
handleyr@... writes:

> Howdy, folks. The Holy Grail of Planet of the Apes lore has been
> unearthed--the script to the licensed 1970s U.K. live stage-show production of
> Planet of the Apes, written by Mike McCarthy.
>
> McCarthy was generous enough to provide me not only with a complete copy
> of the script, but also other goodies to go with it, including a synopsis of
> an Apes-based arena show that ran around the same time, an ape-mask
> theater program handed out to audience members, news clippings, a poster from the
> show and other fun stuff. All of this has now been uploaded here:
>
> http://www.hassleinbooks.com/liveshow2.html"
>

</HTML>

Yeah, I found that interesting as well.

The script is a combination of elements and characters from the TV series and the films, but set in London and geared toward a young audience. There's definitely a Virdon/Burke dynamic between the two astronauts, despite their being named Taylor and Brent, and as you say, Urko is more Ursus than Urko. I'm amazed we can finally know what the show was about after all these years of wondering. Hopefully, actual footage will one day surface.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> It's surprising how close Urko's speech is compared to the (original full
> length) speech Ursus was supposed to give in BENEATH...
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/20/2010 10:43:23 AM Central Daylight Time,
> handleyr@... writes:
>
>
> > Howdy, folks. The Holy Grail of Planet of the Apes lore has been
> > unearthed--the script to the licensed 1970s U.K. live stage-show production of
> > Planet of the Apes, written by Mike McCarthy.
> >
> > McCarthy was generous enough to provide me not only with a complete copy
> > of the script, but also other goodies to go with it, including a synopsis of
> > an Apes-based arena show that ran around the same time, an ape-mask
> > theater program handed out to audience members, news clippings, a poster from the
> > show and other fun stuff. All of this has now been uploaded here:
> >
> > http://www.hassleinbooks.com/liveshow2.html"
> >
>
> </HTML>
>

.html   <.html

I envy those of you who lived in the U.K.--I had no idea the show even existed when I was a kid. Did you actually see the show, John?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John B Kirtley" <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:
>
> This is fantastic.
> I can remember ripping the Newcastle City Hall poster off the wall of a bus station
> and running all the way home with it. I must have been 11 or 12 LOL
> Great find
> John
>
>
> From: mlccougar@...
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 6:52 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Long-lost POTA U.K. Live Stage Show--Found!
>
>
>
> It's surprising how close Urko's speech is compared to the (original full
> length) speech Ursus was supposed to give in BENEATH...
>
> In a message dated 9/20/2010 10:43:23 AM Central Daylight Time,
> handleyr@... writes:
>
> > Howdy, folks. The Holy Grail of Planet of the Apes lore has been
> > unearthed--the script to the licensed 1970s U.K. live stage-show production of
> > Planet of the Apes, written by Mike McCarthy.
> >
> > McCarthy was generous enough to provide me not only with a complete copy
> > of the script, but also other goodies to go with it, including a synopsis of
> > an Apes-based arena show that ran around the same time, an ape-mask
> > theater program handed out to audience members, news clippings, a poster from the
> > show and other fun stuff. All of this has now been uploaded here:
> >
> > http://www.hassleinbooks.com/liveshow2.html"
> >
>
> </HTML>
>

.html   <.html

That'd be great! Thanks very much, John--I'd love to see the story if you find it.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John B Kirtley" <johnbkirtley@...> wrote:
>
> No I never saw it. I remember the Daily Mirror had a half page spread and the local paper. It was the Evening Chronicle.
> I will see if the show is in their archives somewhere.
> John
>
>
> From: rassmguy
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 8:46 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Long-lost POTA U.K. Live Stage Show--Found!
>
>
>
> I envy those of you who lived in the U.K.--I had no idea the show even existed when I was a kid. Did you actually see the show, John?
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John B Kirtley" <johnbkirtley@> wrote:
> >
> > This is fantastic.
> > I can remember ripping the Newcastle City Hall poster off the wall of a bus station
> > and running all the way home with it. I must have been 11 or 12 LOL
> > Great find
> > John
> >
> >
> > From: mlccougar@
> > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 6:52 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Long-lost POTA U.K. Live Stage Show--Found!
> >
> >
> >
> > It's surprising how close Urko's speech is compared to the (original full
> > length) speech Ursus was supposed to give in BENEATH...
> >
> > In a message dated 9/20/2010 10:43:23 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > handleyr@ writes:
> >
> > > Howdy, folks. The Holy Grail of Planet of the Apes lore has been
> > > unearthed--the script to the licensed 1970s U.K. live stage-show production of
> > > Planet of the Apes, written by Mike McCarthy.
> > >
> > > McCarthy was generous enough to provide me not only with a complete copy
> > > of the script, but also other goodies to go with it, including a synopsis of
> > > an Apes-based arena show that ran around the same time, an ape-mask
> > > theater program handed out to audience members, news clippings, a poster from the
> > > show and other fun stuff. All of this has now been uploaded here:
> > >
> > > http://www.hassleinbooks.com/liveshow2.html"
> > >
> >
> > </HTML>
> >
>

.html <.html

.html <.html

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

Haw! Haw!

http://mojourner.blogspot.com/2010/09/shallow-space-travel.html"

.html <.html

Attachments :

DSC04907.JPG
DSC04906.JPG

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:33 AM, jessica rotich < jessicarotich@...> wrote:

I was on a roll, so I went ahead and tried to recreate my favorite Prefect but I wasn't feeling him....so I ended up sculpting Dr. Maximus instead.

http://img710.imageshack.us/i/dsc04893b.jpg/

http://img295.imageshack.us/i/dsc04900x.jpg/

Jess.

Yep, that was pretty much my reaction when the package arrived in the mail and I actually held the script in my hand. But I have to admit, my biggest grin came not from the script, but rather the ape-mask program.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally" <mswhitty@...> wrote:
> Fantastic!
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> rassmguy
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 September 2010 1:43 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Long-lost POTA U.K. Live Stage Show--Found!
>
>
>
>
>
> Howdy, folks. The Holy Grail of Planet of the Apes lore has been
> unearthed--the script to the licensed 1970s U.K. live stage-show production
> of Planet of the Apes, written by Mike McCarthy.
>
> McCarthy was generous enough to provide me not only with a complete copy of
> the script, but also other goodies to go with it, including a synopsis of an
> Apes-based arena show that ran around the same time, an ape-mask theater
> program handed out to audience members, news clippings, a poster from the
> show and other fun stuff. All of this has now been uploaded here:
>
> http://www.hassleinbooks.com/liveshow2.html"
>
> Neil Moxham graciously granted permission to mine the images at his Wikia
> page article about the show, so that I could flesh out the script a bit.
> (What McCarthy provided was only enough to illustrate about half the script,
> so I wanted to punch up the rest a bit.) The captions for the images
> indicate what was provided by McCarthy and what came from the Wikia page.
>
> Enjoy!
> Rich
>

That was pretty damn funny--he nailed it.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> I really enjoyed that, Jeff. Haw!
>
> Jess.
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Haw! Haw!
> >
> > http://mojourner.blogspot.com/2010/09/shallow-space-travel.html"
> >
> >
> >
>

Thanks to Greg Plonowski, a previously unknown version of Rod
Serling's original script for Planet of the Apes is now available for
download! This script is dated March 1, 1965.

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter

Excellent stuff, thanks Greg & Hunter! The 'Planet of the Apes Chronicles' (Paul A. Woods) mentioned this script and called it "Serling's final draft". It's what the Edward G. Robinson test film was based on. It also describes how the explosion to destroy Cornelius' digging site accidentally unearthed the Statue of Liberty which, I recall, is how it happens in the Japanese comic too.

Neil M.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks to Greg Plonowski, a previously unknown version of Rod
> Serling's original script for Planet of the Apes is now available for
> download! This script is dated March 1, 1965.
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
>
> Hunter
>

.html
<.html

Astounding! You have those narrow shifty eyes just right.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> He's finished! What do you think? Is it Dr. Maximus?
>
>
> Jess.
>
>
> Hmm...I'm on an orangutan roll. I wonder if I should take a stab at the
> President just so I could make sure I have all three wise apes done and
> ready for my Christmas creche....
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:33 AM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>wrote:
>
> > I was on a roll, so I went ahead and tried to recreate my favorite Prefect
> > but I wasn't feeling him....so I ended up sculpting Dr. Maximus instead.
> >
> > http://img710.imageshack.us/i/dsc04893b.jpg/
> >
> > http://img295.imageshack.us/i/dsc04900x.jpg/
> >
> > Jess.
> >
>

Attachments :

DSC04931.JPG
DSC04930.JPG

It looks amazing. You could sell the whole set. --- On Tue, 9/21/10, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote: From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> Subject: [PotaDG] President of the Academy, 1:6 scale [2 Attachments] To: "POTA" <pota@yahoogroups.com>, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2010, 4:04 PM   He'll probably go through more subtle changes, but he's getting there.   Jess.

.html
<.html

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Tim "apefan" < apefan23@...> wrote:

Jess! You should do series of busts and sell them! I'd buy them for sure......

Tim

---

From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>

To: POTA <pota@yahoogroups.com>; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tue, September 21, 2010 4:04:03 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] President of the Academy, 1:6 scale [2 Attachments]

He'll probably go through more subtle changes, but he's getting there.

Jess.

*** That's why you ed to shrink them to the 1:9 scale... You can have more
Megos in a smaller place... You'd be able to have a lot of them at a feast
rather than just a few at dinner... ***



In a message dated 9/22/2010 12:16:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
jessicarotich@... writes:

> I will have to think about that. It's do-able. It's just that I think
> it's more fun to be able to pose your figures. Maybe I'll have Dr. Maximus
> and Dr. Honorious over for dinner at C&Z's place someday and photograph
> that. It would be really hilarious but also a lot of work since I need to
> create the whole diorama. But anyway, I really like that idea. The apes
> would look so much more complete rather than just random heads floating on my
> window sill.
>
> Jess.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Tim "apefan" <<A
> HREF="mailto:apefan23@...">apefan23@...</A>> wrote:
> >> Jess! You should do series of busts and sell them! I'd buy them for
>> sure......
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

</HTML>

.html

Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group
Title:		Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa's Birthday
Date:		Monday September 27, 2010
Time:		All Day
Repeats:		This event repeats every year.
Notes:		Happy Birthday Cary! (Krull: POTA 2001)
Yahoo! Greetings:		Send a Yahoo! Greeting
Yahoo! Shopping:		Browse Yahoo! Shopping Gift Guide
Get reminders on your mobile, Yahoo! Messenger, and email. Edit reminder options

Copyright © 2010  Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved | <.html

.html <.html

.html

Reminder from:		PotaDG Yahoo! Group
Title:		William Windom's Birthday
Date:		Tuesday September 28, 2010
Time:		All Day
Repeats:		This event repeats every year.
Notes:		Happy Birthday William! (The President: Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971))
Yahoo! Greetings:		Send a Yahoo! Greeting
Yahoo! Shopping:		Browse Yahoo! Shopping Gift Guide
Get reminders on your mobile, Yahoo! Messenger, and email. Edit reminder options

Copyright © 2010  Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved | <.html

Attachments :

DSC04965.JPG
DSC04964.JPG
DSC04963.JPG
DSC04962.JPG

.html <.html