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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

It's like, duuuh!

http://www.geektress.com/2010/05/will_rise_of_the_apes_be_so_go.php

I can nudge this back on-topic: Henry Corden did the voice of General Urko in the POTA cartoon. Then he was the voice of Fred Flintstone from 1977 to 2005. You'll never find Urko quite as menacing after you find that out!

Neil M.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> "The Flintstones" are 50 today. What does that have to do with anything? I don't know but they're the Flintstones, pop culture royalty. And I always noticed a similarity between their architecture and POTA's. If the Flintstones are 50, POTA can't be far behind.
>

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*** Basically a rehash of PLANET... ***

> Going Ape!
> "If you thought Gorillas in the Mist had some unnerving poacher sequences,
> wait till you see what the first act of Rise of the Apes has in the store.
> They've cut together the opening sequence of the movie and it's
> frightening as hell! The flick opens with a community of friendly chimpanzees, led
> by devoted duo Alpha and Bright Eyes, running for their lives when a dozen
> poachers on horseback approach their community, looking for pelt and
> subjects. The apes are terrified – lots of screaming! – as the poachers attack,
> net and take down the poor things. Babies are captured. Guns come out. Shots
> are fired. Bright Eyes loses her mate. It's a sad, sad massacre. Fade in
> on Franco's character doing an experiment on the newly-captured chimp – now
> alone, scared and without her friend. I have to say, this is going to be a
> rather unnerving, disturbing but fabulous opening sequence – definitely
> not one for the faint-hearted. If you're anything like me, you likely cringe
> at sequences involving animals being hurt or killed, this one's sure to
> impress but also distress"
>

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  It's a reversal, sir.

  What kind of a planet is this where men are the rulers and apes the beast? It's evolution turned UPSIDE-DOWN!

 

From: mlccougar@...

Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2010 1:41 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The new movie's opening scenes...

 

*** Basically a rehash of PLANET... ***

> Going Ape!
> "If you thought Gorillas in the Mist had some unnerving poacher sequences,
> wait till you see what the first act of Rise of the Apes has in the store.
> They've cut together the opening sequence of the movie and it's
> frightening as hell! The flick opens with a community of friendly chimpanzees, led
> by devoted duo Alpha and Bright Eyes, running for their lives when a dozen
> poachers on horseback approach their community, looking for pelt and
> subjects. The apes are terrified – lots of screaming! – as the poachers attack,
> net and take down the poor things. Babies are captured. Guns come out. Shots
> are fired. Bright Eyes loses her mate. It's a sad, sad massacre. Fade in
> on Franco's character doing an experiment on the newly-captured chimp – now
> alone, scared and without her friend. I have to say, this is going to be a
> rather unnerving, disturbing but fabulous opening sequence – definitely
> not one for the faint-hearted. If you're anything like me, you likely cringe
> at sequences involving animals being hurt or killed, this one's sure to
> impress but also distress"
>

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On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@... > wrote:

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That's the feeling I originally had, but I wasn't sure.

Is he right Neil.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: mlccougar@...
Date: Tuesday, October 5, 2010 12:20 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Can anyone explain this?

> It's from "Beware The Beast", "out-takes" I guess you'd call
> them...</HTML>
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> To visit your group on the web, go to:
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That artwork looks familiar! The new book covers could be interesting though.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> The book cover, that is. Ape-ril 2011.
>
> http://blastr.com/2010/10/5-classic-science-fiction.php
>

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Stunning!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Julius is smoking an apple/cinnamon scented incense stick because that's the
> only thing I found at the store that was cigar-colored. Anyway, just
> having fun with my figures.
> Jess.
>
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> Try it out here: http://picasa.google.com/
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One mighty blunt he has rolled there... JK


In a message dated 10/6/2010 9:28:46 PM Central Daylight Time,
jessicarotich@... writes:

> Two more photos I took yesterday that passed my quality inspection.

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I've given the wiki page on the UK Live Shows an overhaul to include all the new information from the scripts and the new images obtained by Rich. There's also some more great news clippings obtained by Dave Ballard added too. Much appreciation to Rich & Dave.

- Neil M.

http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/index.php?title=UK_Live_Show

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Pretty cool...

Now all he needs is a collar & leash and a pouch full of circus fliers to
pass out...


In a message dated 10/14/2010 2:38:51 PM Central Daylight Time,
jessicarotich@... writes:

> I was hoping not to have to resew that leather outfit but it looks like I
> may have to. Darn. Anyway, Caesar look fabulous to me now.
>

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... And I wish Jackson had been the one to do it... While I'm sure he would
have made some changes to the material, I don't think it would have been so
far gone to be recognized as APES...


In a message dated 10/15/2010 10:46:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:

> Peter Jackson is a POTA fan and spent many years trying to do the redo
> that eventually went to Tim Burton. Jackson was Roddy McDowall's personal
> choice to pick up the story and was enlisted to don the makeup again.

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*** Exactly, and that's why he would have been best for the job... As far
as what I meant by "I'm sure he would have made some changes to the material"
is that whatever he was planning, it would have been a continuation of what
was, just with some slight alterations, much like he did with KING KONG...
***



In a message dated 10/16/2010 6:55:27 AM Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:

> Jackson wanted to continue the original films, which Roddy thought was
> the best idea, not a remake.
>
>
>
> From: <A HREF="mailto:mlccougar@...">mlccougar@...</A>
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:22 PM
> To: <A HREF="mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com"> PotaDG@yahoogroups.com</A>
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: various "Rise/Apes" personnel returning to
> Middle Earth
>
>
>
>
> ... And I wish Jackson had been the one to do it... While I'm sure he
> would
> have made some changes to the material, I don't think it would have been
> so
> far gone to be recognized as APES...
>
>

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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Jeff K. <veetus@...> wrote:

"Happy Days" was one of my favorite shows as a kid so I was sad to hear the news of the passing of "Mr. C", Tom Bosley. Then I remembered he was also the host of "That's Hollywood!", which featured a full episode on the POTA movies (and a good one too). So, thanks for making my POTA memories too, Tom.

Sorry, this is the only "That's Hollywood!" segment I could find.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSW2cCVj9XE

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*** We never did get an answer to this, did we? ***

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Neil T. Foster
>

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*** I didn't actually see the case you're referring to (because I wasn't in
that group at the time), but I did see a couple posts regarding it... It
could be a real thing, but you kind of have to wonder why it took twelve years
for this info to come out... I mean the few TV clips and things for the
30th Anniversary had HORRIBLE looking apes running around, for example those
huge, oversized head gorillas...

Krueger said he went to some of the 30th Anniversary events in California,
maybe he seen the Ziar and Cornelius "pullovers"? ***



In a message dated 10/24/2010 12:03:33 PM Central Daylight Time,
apefan23@... writes:

> james wrote this on the other group...
>
>
> I've contacted Brian and he confirm this was produced by Apemania:
> "Back in 1998 (I think) we made 8 costumes and prosthetic pull-over
> masks (4 Cornelius and 4 ZIra) that toured the world to promote the 30th
> Anniversary re-release of POTA. What you have a foto of there is one of
> the travel cases for one of the ZIRA prosthetic pull-overs."
>
>

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Very sorry for not getting back to this earlier.
As you may recall I've mentioned in the past that I would one day like to colour Beware The Beast. Well we've finally decided to go ahead and do it and at the same time very slightly change and re-arrange some of the story and text so it 'works' as a single issue graphic novel.
There's a couple of reasons for doing this, one being that it was of course written to be separate 'episodes' and in some places the flow of the story is affected.
I'm currently adding word and thought balloons as some readers did complain that they were confused in some parts as to whether it was the Narrator or Gideon speaking/thinking.
I've already changed some of the panels and art to also help the flow and fix up a couple of things that were not quite right. The couple of pages I posted were examples of this. Just check them against the originals to see what I am talking about.
Not exactly sure how long it will be before it is fully completed but we will certainly let everyone know when it is.

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mlccougar" <mlccougar@...> wrote:
>
> *** We never did get an answer to this, did we? ***
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil T. Foster
> >
>

Cool.. "Beware the Beast" is my favorite of the "fan-comics"... Are you
planning on selling this when it's done?



In a message dated 10/24/2010 4:07:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:

> As you may recall I've mentioned in the past that I would one day like to
> colour Beware The Beast. Well we've finally decided to go ahead and do it
> and at the same time very slightly change and re-arrange some of the story
> and text so it 'works' as a single issue graphic novel.

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Is anyone aware of the status of the Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes book from Wham Publications? It was due out earlier this year and there has been further mention of it. I've tried e-mailing the company but got no response.

Per Drew Gaska: "Timelines are in flux and lanes have been changed on the highway. As soon as I can let you know what exit we will be taking I will let you know. Myself, BLAM, Apes, Space 1999 and Critical Millennium are undergoing a major promotional overhaul and all sorts of info (and products!) are coming, starting late 2010 and all throughout 2011 with constant updates.

Look for information on the "GOD MILLENNIUM" signing and promotion tour coming soon, and feel free to start following me on Twitter @drewgaska for more info."

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:31 PM, robduthie@... < robduthie@...> wrote:

Is anyone aware of the status of the Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes book from Wham Publications? It was due out earlier this year and there has been further mention of it. I've tried e-mailing the company but got no response.

*** I think it was then planned to have it released around now (though I'd
have to double check that)... It seems the author had a few personal
setbacks which delayed the book's completion, and still are apparently...

I still plan on buying this book, even if I'm a little leery of the
contents, but I don't want to wait until the 10th of Never to see it done... ***


In a message dated 10/28/2010 5:43:32 PM Central Daylight Time,
robduthie@... writes:

>
> Is anyone aware of the status of the Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes
> book from Wham Publications? It was due out earlier this year and there has
> been further mention of it. I've tried e-mailing the company but got no
> response.

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*** I don't and won't TWITTER either... I thought Drew was in touch with
Whitty (or vice-versa)... Drew should just contact Whitty with any details and
Whitty can post it here... I mean Whitty and Neil were plugging
"Conspiracy" in their "Forbidden Zine", so you'd think he'd keep in touch with them to
keep them up to date... ***



In a message dated 10/28/2010 6:13:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
jessicarotich@... writes:

> Does anybody do Twitter? If they can keep an eye on that and post us
> with any updates, that would be uber cool. I do not have an account there and
> am not interested in creating a new one.....
>

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Conspiracy is still coming out, along with a sequel novel, but the timetable has been changed due to circumstances beyond BLAM!'s control. No firm release date is in place yet, but the first novel's manuscript is edited and the second is being plotted. Given the delay, Drew decided to offer fans a glimpse at Conspiracy's story and characters by authorizing material from the novel to be included in Lexicon of the Planet of the Apes, which is fully laid out and now in the final-proofing stage, with an anticipated Amazon.com release date of Dec. 15 or so.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "robduthie@..." <robduthie@...> wrote:
> Is anyone aware of the status of the Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes book from Wham Publications? It was due out earlier this year and there has been further mention of it. I've tried e-mailing the company but got no response.
>

Whitty and Neil are outcasts in the world of those who play "King of the POTA" Mike.

Which is actually a compliment, when you consider the other people involved! :)

Whitty

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** I don't and won't TWITTER either... I thought Drew was in touch with
> Whitty (or vice-versa)... Drew should just contact Whitty with any details and
> Whitty can post it here... I mean Whitty and Neil were plugging
> "Conspiracy" in their "Forbidden Zine", so you'd think he'd keep in touch with them to
> keep them up to date... ***
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/28/2010 6:13:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
> jessicarotich@... writes:
>
>
> > Does anybody do Twitter? If they can keep an eye on that and post us
> > with any updates, that would be uber cool. I do not have an account there and
> > am not interested in creating a new one.....
> >
>
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>

WOWSERS!!

I just realised I have not been receiving mail from the group for quite a while....I missed this!

Hey Neil, I'm going to need you to back me up that poaching was enormously prominent in our BEGINS story before I saw this!

The movie is going to be fantastic I think....

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Going Ape!
>
> "If you thought Gorillas in the Mist had some unnerving poacher sequences,
> wait till you see what the first act of Rise of the Apes has in the store.
> They've cut together the opening sequence of the movie and it's frightening
> as hell! The flick opens with a community of friendly chimpanzees, led by
> devoted duo Alpha and Bright Eyes, running for their lives when a dozen
> poachers on horseback approach their community, looking for pelt and
> subjects. The apes are terrified - lots of screaming! - as the poachers
> attack, net and take down the poor things. Babies are captured. Guns come
> out. Shots are fired. Bright Eyes loses her mate. It's a sad, sad massacre.
> Fade in on Franco's character doing an experiment on the newly-captured
> chimp - now alone, scared and without her friend. I have to say, this is
> going to be a rather unnerving, disturbing but fabulous opening sequence -
> definitely not one for the faint-hearted. If you're anything like me, you
> likely cringe at sequences involving animals being hurt or killed, this
> one's sure to impress but also distress"
>
> http://www.whatsplaying.com.au/2010/10/film-news-hollywood-insider-21010/
>
>
> Neil T. Foster
>

...which is better than a butchering of it!

But Mike, it also has a dimension of believability that PLANET does NOT!

The massacre of apes for bush meat - to the point of near extinction - is an incredibly important thing to consider now and would be insane not to be included in a scenario re the revolution of apes.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> *** Basically a rehash of PLANET... ***
>
> > Going Ape!
> > "If you thought Gorillas in the Mist had some unnerving poacher sequences,
> > wait till you see what the first act of Rise of the Apes has in the store.
> > They’ve cut together the opening sequence of the movie and it’s
> > frightening as hell! The flick opens with a community of friendly chimpanzees, led
> > by devoted duo Alpha and Bright Eyes, running for their lives when a dozen
> > poachers on horseback approach their community, looking for pelt and
> > subjects. The apes are terrified â€" lots of screaming! â€" as the poachers attack,
> > net and take down the poor things. Babies are captured. Guns come out. Shots
> > are fired. Bright Eyes loses her mate. It’s a sad, sad massacre. Fade in
> > on Franco’s character doing an experiment on the newly-captured chimp â€" now
> > alone, scared and without her friend. I have to say, this is going to be a
> > rather unnerving, disturbing but fabulous opening sequence â€" definitely
> > not one for the faint-hearted. If you’re anything like me, you likely cringe
> > at sequences involving animals being hurt or killed, this one’s sure to
> > impress but also distress"
> >
>
> </HTML>
>

You popped off his FACE?!?!

How cruel!

Whitty

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> I popped off his face, replaced it with my Julius headsculpt, and restyled
> his hair after trimming. He looks much better to me.
>
>
> DSC05083.JPG
> DSC05084.JPG
> DSC05085.JPG
> DSC05086.JPG
>
> Jess.
>

If you look at BEWARE THE BEAST on Hunter's site, and compare these pages, do you see there is a distinct difference?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> It's from "Beware The Beast", "out-takes" I guess you'd call them...</HTML>
>

Looks great Neil!

Long live the WIKI!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Moxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
>
> I've given the wiki page on the UK Live Shows an overhaul to include all the new information from the scripts and the new images obtained by Rich. There's also some more great news clippings obtained by Dave Ballard added too. Much appreciation to Rich & Dave.
>
> - Neil M.
>
> http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/index.php?title=UK_Live_Show
>

I have this episode of THAT'S HOLLYWOOD on a BETA tape somewhere...if I find it do you think it would be good to include on the RARE DVDs?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> "Happy Days" was one of my favorite shows as a kid so I was sad to hear the news of the passing of "Mr. C", Tom Bosley. Then I remembered he was also the host of "That's Hollywood!", which featured a full episode on the POTA movies (and a good one too). So, thanks for making my POTA memories too, Tom.
>
> Sorry, this is the only "That's Hollywood!" segment I could find.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSW2cCVj9XE
>

We will be selling a B&W and a COLOUR version.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> Cool.. "Beware the Beast" is my favorite of the "fan-comics"... Are you
> planning on selling this when it's done?
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/24/2010 4:07:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
>
> > As you may recall I've mentioned in the past that I would one day like to
> > colour Beware The Beast. Well we've finally decided to go ahead and do it
> > and at the same time very slightly change and re-arrange some of the story
> > and text so it 'works' as a single issue graphic novel.
>
> </HTML>
>

*** Regardless, Drew should be keeping the two of you up to date... You
plugged CONSPIRACY while it was still just a pipe dream... And at the rate it's
going, it still is one...



In a message dated 10/29/2010 8:18:17 PM Central Daylight Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

> Whitty and Neil are outcasts in the world of those who play "King of the
> POTA" Mike.
>
> Which is actually a compliment, when you consider the other people
> involved! :)
>

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The thing is with PLANET, if there were no sequels and the crazy "plague"
thing, the scenario you're describing very well could have been a reason for
the evolution of the original PLANET...

Either way, I wasn't taking a swipe at ROTA, just pointing out that the
"hunt" for lab specimens in that film is just rehashing what was done in
PLANET... I don't think it has anything to do with capturing apes for "bush meat",
but you may be right... ***



In a message dated 10/29/2010 8:28:21 PM Central Daylight Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

> ...which is better than a butchering of it!
>
> But, it also has a dimension of believability that PLANET does NOT!
>
> The massacre of apes for bush meat - to the point of near extinction - is
> an incredibly important thing to consider now and would be insane not to be
> included in a scenario re the revolution of apes.
>
> Michael

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While I like the Julius that came from the "reconstruction" of the figure,
all I could think was "She paid all that money on a HOT TOYS figure and then
customized it like that?"

Don't get me wrong, I don't like the way the HOT TOYS gorillas looked
(especially with the fake hair) and Julius is an improvement, but cost wise, I'd
think doing that to a SIDESHOW figure would have been more co$t efficient...
***


In a message dated 10/29/2010 8:29:33 PM Central Daylight Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

> You popped off his FACE?!?!
>
> How cruel!
>
> Whitty
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
> >
> > I popped off his face, replaced it with my Julius headsculpt, and
> restyled
> > his hair after trimming. He looks much better to me.
> >
> >
> > DSC05083.JPG
> > DSC05084.JPG

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*** I have the 2 part comic, no need to look at that online... But no, I
didn't do a side by side comparison... ***

In a message dated 10/29/2010 8:32:35 PM Central Daylight Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

> If you look at BEWARE THE BEAST on Hunter's site, and compare these
> pages, do you see there is a distinct difference?
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
> >
> > It's from "Beware The Beast", "out-takes" I guess you'd call them...

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*** I don't mind them "rehashing" (or as you call it "reflecting") The Hunt
from PLANET as long as there's a reason for it and it's not done just to do
it for the sake of doing it... It makes sense to show a "hunt" as the way
the lab apes were obtained... But here's a "POTA As American Myth" moment:
Maybe the ROTA hunt is intended to mirror the capturing of slaves as seen in
the mini-series ROOTS? Both will feature characters ripped from their native
land only to be subjugated... I know that's "not" the reason (I know it's to
mirror PLANET) but since I read that book, I find things that even the film
makers themselves don't know they're saying ;)

And I said it before, I HATE all the "cute" little references they are
adding to it... We don't need to be slammed over the head with all the names,
etc... This is something I think we totally agree on... ***


In a message dated 10/29/2010 9:56:01 PM Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:

> More iffy is using names like "Dodge". I think it's cool to name
> characters after actors in the original, but they are going a bit overboard (they
> have an ape named Maurice and a human named Evans).

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On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 7:45 PM, <mlccougar@...> wrote:

While I like the Julius that came from the "reconstruction" of the figure,
all I could think was "She paid all that money on a HOT TOYS figure and then
customized it like that?"

Don't get me wrong, I don't like the way the HOT TOYS gorillas looked
(especially with the fake hair) and Julius is an improvement, but cost wise, I'd
think doing that to a SIDESHOW figure would have been more co$t efficient...
***

In a message dated 10/29/2010 8:29:33 PM Central Daylight Time,

mswhitty@... writes:

> You popped off his FACE?!?!
>
> How cruel!
>
> Whitty
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
> >
> > I popped off his face, replaced it with my Julius headsculpt, and
> restyled
> > his hair after trimming. He looks much better to me.
> >
> >
> > DSC05083.JPG
> > DSC05084.JPG

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*** Like I said, I didn't do a side by side comparison, I'd have to check
to even see what pages were altered so I wouldn't have to search thru
"everything" to see what's been changed...

And I really do NOT think I was one of the people who thought it could have
been presented differently... "BTB" was one of the things I got behind
because I LIKED it... The only thing I can remember thinking was "off" were the
hieroglyphics on Gideon's gloves, but since he was not a member of "The
Hunt Club" but a hired "exterminator," it made sense that his outfit might have
some variations to it... I had no trouble distinguishing what was being
said/thought... ***



In a message dated 10/29/2010 10:33:22 PM Central Daylight Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

> OK so you can see the differences?
>
> I think you commented originally that it could have been presented
> differently….lots of people made the comment about the commentary.
>
> Michael
>
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> mlccougar@...
> Sent: Saturday, 30 October 2010 12:47 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Can anyone explain this BEAST?!?!?!
>
>
>
> *** I have the 2 part comic, no need to look at that online... But no, I
> didn't do a side by side comparison... ***
>
>
>
>
>
>

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It's been a month since I lasted posted an update, so it's time for
some more! Just added to my Apes archive:

- Yet another APES timeline, this time from a mid-1970s UK
sci-fi/comic fanzine called COMICS UNLIMITED. Thanks to the
contributor!

- Fan artwork from Olivier Moretti

- Issue #1 of PLANETE DES SINGES, the French version of the
Marvel Apes magazine

Thanks, guys!

https://pota.goatley.com/

Hunter

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*** I agree with Whitty on this, I think it's more CONQUEST oriented than
ESCAPE... In a way, ESCAPE shows the results of everything that happened
before it... It doesn't show any origins of development of intelligence or
genetic engineering or whatever else ROTA is supposed to show: The apes arrive
here already showing the end result of everything that came before it... You
can't consider baby Milo/Caesar as a result of anything that they'd be
cooking up in ROTA, he's already genetically "enhanced" due to his parents and
their bloodline(s), so you can't use him as a comparison to what this new
Caesar will be going thru... The only time ESCAPE shows Caesar "interacting" with
humans is with Stevie, Lewis, and Armando, and that's only during his birth
scene and with just Armando at the end of the film... ROTA will not even be
comparable to ESCAPE (or CONQUEST) that way, because Milo/Caesar is raised
off screen by Armando, in a circus and he's already intelligent... ROTA
Caesar will be lab raised, interacting with humans as a lab specimen, and his
intelligence will come from manipulating genes, none of which happened to
Milo/Caesar...

I don't think ROTA will exactly be CONQUEST oriented either, because from
everything you're saying, it's all a build-up and shows the main ape's
backstory and nothing else, probably not even anything as subtle as lab apes
picking up syringes and sticking them in the scientists... But it's still sounds
more CONQUEST-like because it will show some of the messing around with
genetics that eventually causes high intelligence in the ape population... No,
CONQUEST doesn't show any of it, never really implies it either, but there
had to be something like that going on in the CONQUEST "backstory" and/or the
"backstory" of the original ape revolt (that led to PLANET)... ROTA sounds
like it will just be a lot of "filling in the blanks" as to how apes become
intelligent, but that will be the backstory for it's own entity/franchise...

I'm still not convinced ROTA is a prequel to anything though, I still
consider it a "reboot" and it'll be the start of it's own franchise "inspired by
Pierre Boulle"... ***


In a message dated 10/31/2010 1:27:05 AM Central Standard Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

>
> Hmmmm. OK I do see your point but I think it's intentionally geared to be
> a CONQUEST, but possibly without the actual uprise. They have named the
> main character Caesar and I doubt there's a coincidence that the DVD release
> was of Caesar's head (why not Cornelius or Zaius or the ever popular
> selling gorillas?). I think it's going to show how the uprise is possible, and
> at the end I do think we will get an uprise on some scale, but a smaller
> emphasis on it.
>
> Anyway, I have liked the film from the start and it is becoming what I
> thought it would be so it looks like my uneducated guess could be right (touch
> wood and do not say "Tim Burto……")
>
> Michael
>
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Jeff K.
> Sent: Sunday, 31 October 2010 3:09 PM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] "Rise of the Apes" the "Escape" of the new movies?
>
>
>
> People have been assuming that "Rise of the Apes" will be something like
> "Conquest", but the director said if the ape vs. human war is depicted, it
> would be in the next film. I'd say that would make IT the new "Conquest",
> while "Rise" is more like "Escape". Apes don't land from the future, but
> it's about one ape (Caesar) interacting with the humans. Amanda Silver, the
> writer, said there's a lot of heart, and I think that description fits
> "Escape". >SPOILER< And the film literally climaxes with an escape, not a
> conquest. Like "Escape", the movie will be more intimate and show how things get
> started. And it happens that 2011 is the 40th anniversary of "Escape", so
> it all fits.
>
>
>
>
>
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*** Yeah, I get what you're saying...


In a message dated 10/31/2010 4:14:52 PM Central Standard Time,
mswhitty@... writes:

> I think the term "prequel" is loosely used anyway Mike. I think they
> are using the term as "well it does not really fit into the timeline but if
> you DO you will have to say it's a PREQUEL because it's placed prior to 395
> something".
>
> Know what I mean?
>
>

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That fanzine timeline (from around 1976, by the looks of it) says something about "the new film, 'The Secret On The Planet of the Apes'..." ??

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> It's been a month since I lasted posted an update, so it's time for
> some more! Just added to my Apes archive:
>
> - Yet another APES timeline, this time from a mid-1970s UK
> sci-fi/comic fanzine called COMICS UNLIMITED. Thanks to the
> contributor!
>
> - Fan artwork from Olivier Moretti
>
> - Issue #1 of PLANETE DES SINGES, the French version of the
> Marvel Apes magazine
>
> Thanks, guys!
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/
>
> Hunter
>