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Group: pota Message: 67189 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
Group: pota Message: 67190 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" references
Group: pota Message: 67191 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Group Guidelines
Group: pota Message: 67192 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
Group: pota Message: 67193 From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Group Guidelines
Group: pota Message: 67194 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
Group: pota Message: 67195 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
Group: pota Message: 67196 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
Group: pota Message: 67197 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
Group: pota Message: 67198 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Group Guidelines
Group: pota Message: 67199 From: john surphlis Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
Group: pota Message: 67200 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
Group: pota Message: 67201 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
Group: pota Message: 67202 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: so..."Rise 2" and Jackie Earle Hailey?
Group: pota Message: 67203 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Group Guidelines
Group: pota Message: 67204 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
Group: pota Message: 67207 From: James Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 67208 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
Group: pota Message: 67209 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: so..."Rise 2" and Jackie Earle Hailey?
Group: pota Message: 67210 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
Group: pota Message: 67211 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67212 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Remembering That Other Great Ape... ;-) (Semi-OT)
Group: pota Message: 67213 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: "Rise" blu ray interactive trailer
Group: pota Message: 67214 From: jessica rotich Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67215 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: so..."Rise 2" and "Full Metal Jacket"
Group: pota Message: 67216 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
Group: pota Message: 67217 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67218 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67219 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" blu ray interactive trailer
Group: pota Message: 67220 From: James Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: FW: ape photos
Group: pota Message: 67221 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
Group: pota Message: 67222 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
Group: pota Message: 67223 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. Franco Sr.
Group: pota Message: 67224 From: James Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: FW: rca video disc
Group: pota Message: 67225 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67226 From: James Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: FW: beneath and planet photos
Group: pota Message: 67227 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67228 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
Group: pota Message: 67229 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
Group: pota Message: 67230 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
Group: pota Message: 67231 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67232 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Planet of the Apes, 12/1/2011, 12:00 pm
Group: pota Message: 67233 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67234 From: A REDMAN Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67235 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67236 From: James Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 67237 From: James Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: FW: photo items
Group: pota Message: 67238 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67239 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: "Rise" Oscar campaign rolling
Group: pota Message: 67240 From: jessica rotich Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67241 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67242 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
Group: pota Message: 67243 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: FW: rca video disc [3 Attachments]
Group: pota Message: 67244 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67245 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67246 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67247 From: James Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: FW: rare german beneath poster
Group: pota Message: 67248 From: James Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: FW: more ape photos
Group: pota Message: 67249 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67250 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: the Beaver reviews "Rise" blu ray!
Group: pota Message: 67251 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67252 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: the Beaver reviews "Rise" blu ray!
Group: pota Message: 67253 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67254 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
Group: pota Message: 67255 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67256 From: jamesa1102 Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: The Ape/Marvel Archive
Group: pota Message: 67257 From: johnroche49 Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: The Ape/Marvel Archive
Group: pota Message: 67258 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: The Ape/Marvel Archive
Group: pota Message: 67259 From: jsurphlis Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: ceasar isn't a god
Group: pota Message: 67260 From: James Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 67261 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: ceasar isn't a god
Group: pota Message: 67262 From: A REDMAN Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: ceasar isn't a god
Group: pota Message: 67263 From: A REDMAN Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67264 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: "Rise" gets it's first nominations
Group: pota Message: 67265 From: James Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: FW: ape photos
Group: pota Message: 67266 From: A REDMAN Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: FW: ape photos
Group: pota Message: 67267 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Taylor INTENTIONALLY blew up the Earth, right?
Group: pota Message: 67268 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67269 From: Mfx_specialprojects@yahoo.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Taylor INTENTIONALLY blew up the Earth, right?
Group: pota Message: 67270 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Taylor INTENTIONALLY blew up the Earth, right?
Group: pota Message: 67271 From: johnroche49 Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" gets it's first nominations
Group: pota Message: 67272 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67273 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: ceasar isn't a god
Group: pota Message: 67274 From: johnroche49 Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67275 From: A REDMAN Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67276 From: S Man Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: The Office
Group: pota Message: 67277 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" gets it's first nominations
Group: pota Message: 67278 From: James Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 67279 From: jamesa1102 Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: The Office
Group: pota Message: 67280 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" gets it's first nominations
Group: pota Message: 67281 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67282 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: The Office
Group: pota Message: 67283 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67284 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67285 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: 2012 Conquest Calendar
Group: pota Message: 67286 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67287 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67288 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
Group: pota Message: 67289 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: RISE continues to gross
Group: pota Message: 67290 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?



Group: pota Message: 67189 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
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Does Rise need Twilight's "better abs" or just its female protagonist's having MULTIPLE suitors? The latter seems to be a successful recipe for ticket sales these days, a lack of substance notwithstanding. Sigh...



--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> The box office total for "Rise of the POTA" ended last week with nary a squeak, so I'm calling it. The film ended with a $ 480 million worldwide total. It didn't pass "Rio" ($ 484 million) and become Fox's top movie so it will have to settle for # 2. Thanks to the performance of the new "Twilight" movie ($488 million so far after a little over a week) "Rise" is pushed out of the Top 10 for the year as well. For the "Rise" sequel the apes are going to need better abs. But it is the top non-sequel, non- kid flick of the year and beat all the comic book movies. Also to be considered is that "Rise" didn't benefit from 3D prices or aggressive promotion like the big boys. So it's time to celebrate a box office performance well done. But we're going to celebrate the Heston way, with a Bud Light.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdQbHTL-5gs
>
>
> "Rise" is # 11 for the year, with a few more biggies to go. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/
>
> 1. Harry Potter 8 - $ 1,328 billion
> 2. Transformers 3 - $1,123 billion
> 3. Pirates 4 - $1,043 billion
> 4. Kung Fu Panda 2 - $663 million
> 5. Fast 5 - $626 million
> 6. Hangover 2 - $581 million
> 7. Smurfs - $561 million
> 8. Cars 2 - $551 million
> 9. Twilight 4 - $488 million
> 10. Rio - $484 million
> 11. Rise - $480 million
>
> "Rise" has travelled the world and now it's ready to come home - - to YOUR house!
>
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Group: pota Message: 67190 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" references
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I enjoyed ALL of the Easter Eggs (albeit to varying degrees). I think my favorite was "Lost in Space?" :-) I hope the return's filmed at (at times stunning and certainly beautiful) Lake Powell again...


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> I thought the references were well done. There's only two that stood out, I don't know why people are saying it's wall to wall references. I thought the "madhouse" line was worked in the context, and it was in the background. The "damn dirty ape" is the most in your face but it works for me because it leads directly to the payoff (another reference, but one I think fans would've missed if it wasn't there, the first word spoke by an ape). People complain about Malfoy but his character served it's purpose and I thought it was fun to have the A hole (the character, not Felton, who was fine in the role) say those lines.
> What else was there? Caesar building the Statue of Liberty? Why not? For a movie that some fans feel went too far astray from classic POTA it's a nice little reminder. I could've done without some of the names but I think "Dodge" is the only one that's spoken. "Cornelia" is fine, so what? The names that are nods to people who worked on classic Apes, those are good tributes. Probably Buck Kartalian got a kick out of it. I loved the Jacobs reference.
> So I didn't have a problem with the references outside the "Dodge" and "Landon" stuff, and probably the Icarus (the reference people seemed to like, even though it's not really a reference). I thought the references added to the fun.
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Group: pota Message: 67191 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Group Guidelines
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What was said. Agree in priciple but to make a point sometimes you have to circumvent the jist of the argument and if people, places or things that arent apes are written in was in reply to an ape query and should not be surmisially discounted as not pertaining to apes. As a poor man writer many many years ago , a topic can be discussed without ever being mentioned and with only using other non pertaining examples. In other words its better to be progressive than constrained by rules that are very hard and objective by the rule maker. Everything should be welcomed as long as it stays on topic. My liberal leanings are showing again, sorry. Bad spelling I know, Love all of you John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Occupy POTA Group!
>
>
> From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:45 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Group Guidelines
>
>
>
> Once again there is a need to remind everyone that the group guidelines state:
>
> Please be courteous and respectful of other members. While discussion and differences of opinion are natural, please keep all such discussions friendly without name-calling or attacking someone for holding a different opinion.
>
> They also state:
>
> Please remember the purpose of the group is to discuss Planet of the Apes. If you wish to discuss politics or Star Trek or something else, there are sites designed for those topics. All topics should be relatable back to Planet of the Apes. News of POTA alumni is always welcome but long reviews & discussions of Patton or Marky Mark's latest film may be over the line. Please keep Off Topic posts brief and remember to put (OT) in the subject line.
>
> All members should read the group guidelines before posting: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/PostingGuidelines.htm
>
> Thank you.
>
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Group: pota Message: 67192 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
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To quote my favorite Rock/Pop writer- "I guess I just wasnt made for these times". John M

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
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> Does Rise need Twilight's "better abs" or just its female protagonist's having MULTIPLE suitors? The latter seems to be a successful recipe for ticket sales these days, a lack of substance notwithstanding. Sigh...
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 67193 From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Group Guidelines
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This group is for discussing the POTA franchise, not Twlight or Star Trek or Lord of the Rings or anything else. There are other groups and forums to discuss those. Anyone who does not like that and cannot adhere to the group's guidelines is perfectly free to leave the group.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> What was said. Agree in priciple but to make a point sometimes you have to circumvent the jist of the argument and if people, places or things that arent apes are written in was in reply to an ape query and should not be surmisially discounted as not pertaining to apes. As a poor man writer many many years ago , a topic can be discussed without ever being mentioned and with only using other non pertaining examples. In other words its better to be progressive than constrained by rules that are very hard and objective by the rule maker. Everything should be welcomed as long as it stays on topic. My liberal leanings are showing again, sorry. Bad spelling I know, Love all of you John M.
>
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Group: pota Message: 67194 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
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At least in the Worldwide Adjusted Gross it beat
POTA2K1 by a 100 million. But how did I miss
that beer commercial?  When was that out?
 
 
In a message dated 11/29/2011 1:16:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
For the "Rise" sequel the apes are going to need better abs.
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Group: pota Message: 67195 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
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It's easier for them. The little In Joke just fly over their heads.
They smack fans right between the eyes and make them wince.
 
 
In a message dated 11/29/2011 3:32:15 A.M. Central Standard Time, lawford42@... writes:
It's just funny how the general public enjoyed the movie more than many Ape fans.
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Group: pota Message: 67196 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
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I don't mind references in unrelated movies, but NEVER in a remake.
 
 
In a message dated 11/29/2011 6:53:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, goathunter@... writes:
I didn't mind them all, just the clumsy, obvious ones.....
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Group: pota Message: 67197 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
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It wasn't meant to be in the final cut.
It was just an onset tension breaker.
Since it was left in it's now ape lore.
Too bad it wasn't a long lost extra.
 
 
In a message dated 11/29/2011 9:39:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
Yeah, but it's all very much part of the POTA legacy.  It goes right back to the original movie -- and I'm not about to defend it.  I think PLANET would be a better movie if they hadn't done so many joke lines and had left out the "See No Evil..." thing with the tribunal.  It does work as mass entertainment, but later it's not so cute.
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Group: pota Message: 67198 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Group Guidelines
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And punctuation... but who's counting?
Your opening statement was, I believe,
a question. But seriously, education aside,
I hit Send all the time without proofreading
what I've typed.  Often I delete it without
sending because of any number of reasons.
Off Topic, too much a personal attack, etc...
Not sure what the latest cause for a Review
Of Guidelines is, but I'll try to think before
hitting send. Ambien eMailing is the new
Drunk-Dialing. Still, cheaper than ordering
something online you didn't really need. 
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/29/2011 7:25:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, johnmermigas@... writes:
sorry. Bad spelling
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Group: pota Message: 67199 From: john surphlis Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
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nope saw it first ime this pass summer it was great, didn't relize that even the tiny chimp that was the green eyed ceasar, was .c.g.i., it look o real. i'am waiting for the d.v.d. to come out. i'am buying combo packs right now, don't have a blu-ray yet, next geeneration ia already 3d. blu-ray. my next t.v. will be a 3d. t.v, maybe for this year's christmas or next year's birthday prsent, from me to me ha ha opp's mistaks. thanks john
 

To: pota@yahoogroups.com
From: LordTZer0@...
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:07:18 -0500
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?

 
 
It wasn't meant to be in the final cut.
It was just an onset tension breaker.
Since it was left in it's now ape lore.
Too bad it wasn't a long lost extra.
 
 
In a message dated 11/29/2011 9:39:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
Yeah, but it's all very much part of the POTA legacy.  It goes right back to the original movie -- and I'm not about to defend it.  I think PLANET would be a better movie if they hadn't done so many joke lines and had left out the "See No Evil..." thing with the tribunal.  It does work as mass entertainment, but later it's not so cute.


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Group: pota Message: 67200 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
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Nice Brian Wilson reference. Better Abs?
or Better Ads?  Gorilla Suits aside, I don't
think apes should have abs. It's not natural.
I do think a better marketing plan would've
helped Rise's box office. why would killer
apes be less interesting to kids than the
dinosaurs in Jurassic Park? Is it more
violent to be eaten by a T-Rex than it
is to be pummeled by apes? Toys and
models aside there aught to be some
tie-in to stimulate some Apemania. I
just don't want any Ewok Factor in it.
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/29/2011 7:25:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, johnmermigas@... writes:
 

To quote my favorite Rock/Pop writer- "I guess I just wasnt made for these times". John M

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
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> Does Rise need Twilight's "better abs" or just its female protagonist's having MULTIPLE suitors? The latter seems to be a successful recipe for ticket sales these days, a lack of substance notwithstanding. Sigh...
>
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Group: pota Message: 67201 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
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It says 1996 or something on the commercial. In the late '90's Heston was playing with his overly serious image, kind of like Shatner is doing now. I've got some of his Bud Light radio ads and also a radio ad he did for TBS' "Chimp Channel" promo.
As for POTA2001, it beat "Rise" in the U.S. and was also Fox's #1 movie of it's year, unlike "Rise". But overall "Rise" brought in more money thanks to foreign countries.


From: LordTZer0@...
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:54 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] R.I.P. "Rise" box office





At least in the Worldwide Adjusted Gross it beat
POTA2K1 by a 100 million. But how did I miss
that beer commercial? When was that out?
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Group: pota Message: 67202 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: so..."Rise 2" and Jackie Earle Hailey?
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  OK, so Jackie Earle Hailey is the hottest actor from the original POTA franchise working today. Oscar nominee, he played my bro Freddy Krueger. He's worked with the greats: Scorsese ("Shutter Island"), Burton ("Dark Shadows") and currently Spielberg ("Lincoln"). So obviously the former Kraik should be a part of the new POTA franchise. But what part? I think he should be the leader of the human resistance. Maybe if Franco bails he could catch Freida Pinto's eye and she could be torn in her allegiance. "What do you mean you like the apes? Are you human or not?", he could ask her and she could cry and say, "I don't know where I belong!". Kraik: Human resistance you can believe in. 
 
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Group: pota Message: 67203 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Group Guidelines
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--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
> And punctuation... but who's counting?
> Your opening statement was, I believe,
> a question. But seriously, education aside,
> I hit Send all the time without proofreading
> what I've typed. Often I delete it without
> sending because of any number of reasons.
> Off Topic, too much a personal attack, etc...
> Not sure what the latest cause for a Review
> Of Guidelines is, but I'll try to think before
> hitting send. Ambien eMailing is the new
> Drunk-Dialing. Still, cheaper than ordering
> something online you didn't really need.
>
>
> Funny, I take ambienCR and it does nothing. I got Apes on my mind constantly. True that meds will effect writing and I was a small time writer so im ashamed of myself.
Apes like I always said are a more aquired taste nowadays so the Box office numbers will never be incredible. Rise though to me with all that was against it did great. Internationally it did even better. Wonder why? Take care, John M.
>
> In a message dated 11/29/2011 7:25:02 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> johnmermigas@... writes:
>
> sorry. Bad spelling
>
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Group: pota Message: 67204 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 11/30/2011
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Yeah, I wanted to see who would comment. Its true though times are changing so fast and people are getting dumber a future Apes film might have to have gimmicks even more than they already have. Apes with Abs -Good one. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Nice Brian Wilson reference. Better Abs?
> or Better Ads? Gorilla Suits aside, I don't
> think apes should have abs. It's not natural.
> I do think a better marketing plan would've
> helped Rise's box office. why would killer
> apes be less interesting to kids than the
> dinosaurs in Jurassic Park? Is it more
> violent to be eaten by a T-Rex than it
> is to be pummeled by apes? Toys and
> models aside there aught to be some
> tie-in to stimulate some Apemania. I
> just don't want any Ewok Factor in it.
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/29/2011 7:25:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> johnmermigas@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> To quote my favorite Rock/Pop writer- "I guess I just wasnt made for these
> times". John M
>
> --- In _pota@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:pota@yahoogroups.com) ,
> "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@> wrote:
> >
> > Does Rise need Twilight's "better abs" or just its female protagonist's
> having MULTIPLE suitors? The latter seems to be a successful recipe for
> ticket sales these days, a lack of substance notwithstanding. Sigh...
> >
> >
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 67207 From: James Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Is It Time For Oscar To Recognize Andy Serkis?
Airlock Alpha
Fox, the distributor for the recent film "Rise of the Planet of the Apes," wants the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences to finally recognize Andy Serkis, even if you never once see his face on screen for "Planet of the Apes. ...
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Top 10 end-of-the-world movies
AZ Central.com
"Planet of the Apes" (1968):Charlton Heston travels through time and space to find a world that hasn't ended, exactly -- just the world as we know it. Bad time for people: The apes are in charge and humans are slaves. Big twist ending, of course, ...
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Group: pota Message: 67208 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
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I do think a better marketing plan would've helped Rise's box office.

Considering everything, including what I believe is a fact, that being that 99%, if not more, of the human race doesn't care bupkis about anything POTA, I'll bet 20th Century Fox figures they did just about everything right regarding RISE.  There's probably been a lot of back slapping and executive bonuses handed out at Fox over RISE.
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Group: pota Message: 67209 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: so..."Rise 2" and Jackie Earle Hailey?
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OK, so Jackie Earle Hailey is the hottest actor from the original POTA franchise working today.

Oh, you do make me laugh sometimes, Krueger.
 
Ok, forgetting that Hailey is a hot anything....  Using the title "Rise 2" for the sequel has me wondering just what the title will be for the next movie.
 
Boy, I hope it's not anything as silly as "Treachery and Greed on the Planet of the Apes"!
 
And Rupert has said an idea he has for the sequel is "FULL METAL JACKET with apes."  That doesn't sound too promising to me.  I'm not that crazy about the actual FULL METAL JACKET.
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Group: pota Message: 67210 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 11/30/2011
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It is a shame that today's generation has to go with the gimmicks. I agree that a better marketing plan would have helped Rise. But the movie did okay. At least we'll see a sequel. So I'm pretty stoked about that. Sure the Apes fans may not have the largest fanbase--but at least we have one and we don't have to rely on wimpy, shiny and glittery vampires for our entertainment.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I wanted to see who would comment. Its true though times are changing so fast and people are getting dumber a future Apes film might have to have gimmicks even more than they already have. Apes with Abs -Good one. Take care, John M.
>
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Group: pota Message: 67211 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 11/30/2011
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Just curious, I don't know if any of you have addressed this lately.
Over the years, I've visited Apemania's site quite a bit and I've always enjoyed looking at all the props, etc. I realize the good folks there probably have their regular jobs like the rest of us, but I haven't seen the site updated in quite a while. Does anyone know if they are still in business as far as prosthetics, etc. are concerned?
I don't think the prices on the site have changed in several years.
If the wife is willing, I'm hoping to save a little money up and I'd love to buy a chimp outfit and prosthetics, etc. To be honest, though, I'm not really sure whether or not I would actually don them or just create a nice display. I'm not really much for dressing up but it would be kind of a blast to go down the street here in Okinawa dressed like a chimp.
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Group: pota Message: 67212 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Remembering That Other Great Ape... ;-) (Semi-OT)
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Here's a memory of growing up with KING KONG, in New York (and WOR-TV's
odd--and ultimately national--tradition of showing KONG on
Thanksgiving!):

King Kong, and the City

http://thethunderchild.com/BurnsintheCity/KingKongintheCity.html"




I watch KING KONG (and "Son of Kong") every Thanksgiving because I have fond memories of those WOR-TV showings, but I also remember even earlier, back to the late sixties/very early seventies when WOR would show the same movie everyday at the same time, Mon thru Fri, and I'd be there for KONG everyday.   In the days before home video, you were thankful for whatever you could catch on TV.
 
I can't remember the first time I saw KING KONG, I must have been only two or three, so it just seems as if there has always been this movie in my life, and I've always been crazy about KONG.  I can't even guess at how many times I've seen it, or watched bits of it, and I credit KONG for preparing me to go ape when, one afternoon after school in early 1968, I caught a TV commercial for a certain other ape movie.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 67213 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: "Rise" blu ray interactive trailer
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"Rise of the POTA" has finished it's world tour and is taking it's time returning (I think it met a girl in Barbados). While we wait for it, here's a Fox promo that includes an interactive trailer and one of the extras, "The Genius of Andy Serkis".

http://www.apesinteractivetrailer.com/
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Group: pota Message: 67214 From: jessica rotich Date: 11/30/2011
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Hi Jeremiah. Yes, they are still in business. You should get a quote from Brian at Apemania (afryt4u@...) --some of the stuff on the website is outdated as far as pricing. Apemania is wonderful.

Also, you should also go to town dressed in full ape gear and make sure to take lots of photos. I don't think I have ever seen any photos of simians in Japan. You will be the first.

Jess.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:21 AM, JEREMIAH APE <rv.cupp01@...> wrote:

Just curious, I don't know if any of you have addressed this lately.
Over the years, I've visited Apemania's site quite a bit and I've always enjoyed looking at all the props, etc. I realize the good folks there probably have their regular jobs like the rest of us, but I haven't seen the site updated in quite a while. Does anyone know if they are still in business as far as prosthetics, etc. are concerned?
I don't think the prices on the site have changed in several years.
If the wife is willing, I'm hoping to save a little money up and I'd love to buy a chimp outfit and prosthetics, etc. To be honest, though, I'm not really sure whether or not I would actually don them or just create a nice display. I'm not really much for dressing up but it would be kind of a blast to go down the street here in Okinawa dressed like a chimp.


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Group: pota Message: 67215 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: so..."Rise 2" and "Full Metal Jacket"
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Rupert said he saw the sequel as kind of a war movie (like "Full Metal Jacket") where the next generation of apes are the soldiers going through the abandoned human civilization. He also referred to "Rise" as "Sparticus" (even though it's really the Moses story) so maybe he just likes to take his cue from Kubrick. But I'm sure right now they're really figuring out what to do. Right now, as you read this! To prequelize or not to prequelize.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:50 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: so..."Rise 2" and Jackie Earle Hailey?






OK, so Jackie Earle Hailey is the hottest actor from the original POTA franchise working today.

Oh, you do make me laugh sometimes, Krueger.

Ok, forgetting that Hailey is a hot anything.... Using the title "Rise 2" for the sequel has me wondering just what the title will be for the next movie.

Boy, I hope it's not anything as silly as "Treachery and Greed on the Planet of the Apes"!

And Rupert has said an idea he has for the sequel is "FULL METAL JACKET with apes." That doesn't sound too promising to me. I'm not that crazy about the actual FULL METAL JACKET.
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Group: pota Message: 67216 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
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It is a shame that today's generation has to go with the gimmicks. I agree that a better marketing plan would have helped Rise. But the movie did okay. At least we'll see a sequel. So I'm pretty stoked about that. Sure the Apes fans may not have the largest fanbase--but at least we have one and we don't have to rely on wimpy, shiny and glittery vampires for our entertainment.



Well, the gimmick of a planet of talking apes and a makeup that was convincing sure caused an earlier generation -- mine -- to go crazy for some movies, so I think that's always been.  Way back in 1933 the gimmick of a little puppet being turned into a giant gorilla-like monster caused another generation to go nuts.  But, as you say, at last we'll see a sequel, and I'm getting nervous about it, because POTA is tricky material.
 
I have a feeling that James Franco won't be back for the sequel.  I got the sense from him that RISE was just a gig, and that he's moved on.  I get a hunch that it's possible Brian Cox will be back, playing a Kolp-like nut-job survivor of the plague out to get revenge on Caesar for the killing of his son.  I think we'll see the apes moving into the deserted cities looking for food (What is there for apes to eat in the forests of North America?) and taking over the old previously human habitats.  The sequel will be something like BATTLE, but won't be any more a remake of BATTLE than RISE was a remake of CONQUEST.   It may have aspects of the OMEGA MAN in it, and it may be as Rupert said, FULL METAL JACKET with apes.  Which has me wondering if a possible title will be FIGHT FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES.
 
Anybody else got RISE sequel title ideas?
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Group: pota Message: 67217 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
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Just curious, I don't know if any of you have addressed this lately.
Over the years, I've visited Apemania's site quite a bit and I've always enjoyed looking at all the props, etc. I realize the good folks there probably have their regular jobs like the rest of us, but I haven't seen the site updated in quite a while. Does anyone know if they are still in business as far as prosthetics, etc. are concerned?
I don't think the prices on the site have changed in several years.
If the wife is willing, I'm hoping to save a little money up and I'd love to buy a chimp outfit and prosthetics, etc. To be honest, though, I'm not really sure whether or not I would actually don them or just create a nice display. I'm not really much for dressing up but it would be kind of a blast to go down the street here in Okinawa dressed like a chimp.




Yeah, that sounds like a hard one to get past the wife... where's Okinawa?  Never heard of it.
 
I've never ordered anything from Apemania because they're rather expensive.  Jessica might know what's currently up with them.
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Group: pota Message: 67218 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
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Hi Jeremiah.  Yes, they are still in business.  You should get a quote from Brian at Apemania (afryt4u@...) --some of the stuff on the website is outdated as far as pricing.  Apemania is wonderful.

Also, you should also go to town dressed in full ape gear and make sure to take lots of photos.  I don't think I have ever seen any photos of simians in Japan.  You will be the first. 

Jess.



There you go!  I knew Jessica would know.
 
So, Jeremiah is in Japan... Hey, did you see RISE there in a theatre?  Did you have to look at Japanese subtitles?
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Group: pota Message: 67219 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" blu ray interactive trailer
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"Rise of the POTA" has finished it's world tour and is taking it's time returning (I think it met a girl in Barbados). While we wait for it, here's a Fox promo that includes an interactive trailer and one of the extras, "The Genius of Andy Serkis".

http://www.apesinteractivetrailer.com/



We should start seeing reviews of the Blu-ray very shortly.
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Group: pota Message: 67220 From: James Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: FW: ape photos
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From: William Burge
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 12:21 PM
Subject: ape photos

 

dear group, I found two dvd ads for the rise film- coming out on dec 13. the rest is from the other ape films. enjoy from william burge:) happy

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Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
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AMEN! John M.
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JEREMIAH APE" <rv.cupp01@...> wrote:
>
> It is a shame that today's generation has to go with the gimmicks. I agree that a better marketing plan would have helped Rise. But the movie did okay. At least we'll see a sequel. So I'm pretty stoked about that. Sure the Apes fans may not have the largest fanbase--but at least we have one and we don't have to rely on wimpy, shiny and glittery vampires for our entertainment.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, I wanted to see who would comment. Its true though times are changing so fast and people are getting dumber a future Apes film might have to have gimmicks even more than they already have. Apes with Abs -Good one. Take care, John M.
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 67222 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office
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Im in that generation also(51) and what you say is true. We were less sophisticated when it came to special effects. We filled in the blanks, like not seeing the antagonist in a melodrama. We went for story even as children. Thats why I used to feel we were a more savey generation but the performance of Rise worldwide might change my mind. Thats a big Might!
I loved Kong too because my father used to say that King Kong was his POTA and he encouraged my enthuiasm. Im alittle sad now and Rise is bitter sweet now that my father is in Lithgows characters mental condition. Always a tear. Anyway enough sentementality, the sequel story you suggest sounds very much how I feel they will go. I feel their might be better ways and the fact that not real Apes fanatics are in charge of this whole scenerio sometimes causes concern. I hope a sequel is even more political with less "Easter eggs" for us oldtimers. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> It is a shame that today's generation has to go with the gimmicks. I agree that a better marketing plan would have helped Rise. But the movie did okay. At least we'll see a sequel. So I'm pretty stoked about that. Sure the Apes fans may not have the largest fanbase--but at least we have one and we don't have to rely on wimpy, shiny and glittery vampires for our entertainment.
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, the gimmick of a planet of talking apes and a makeup that was convincing sure caused an earlier generation -- mine -- to go crazy for some movies, so I think that's always been. Way back in 1933 the gimmick of a little puppet being turned into a giant gorilla-like monster caused another generation to go nuts. But, as you say, at last we'll see a sequel, and I'm getting nervous about it, because POTA is tricky material.
>
> I have a feeling that James Franco won't be back for the sequel. I got the sense from him that RISE was just a gig, and that he's moved on. I get a hunch that it's possible Brian Cox will be back, playing a Kolp-like nut-job survivor of the plague out to get revenge on Caesar for the killing of his son. I think we'll see the apes moving into the deserted cities looking for food (What is there for apes to eat in the forests of North America?) and taking over the old previously human habitats. The sequel will be something like BATTLE, but won't be any more a remake of BATTLE than RISE was a remake of CONQUEST. It may have aspects of the OMEGA MAN in it, and it may be as Rupert said, FULL METAL JACKET with apes. Which has me wondering if a possible title will be FIGHT FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES.
>
> Anybody else got RISE sequel title ideas?
>
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Group: pota Message: 67223 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: R.I.P. Franco Sr.
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Something that wasn't brought up here but James Franco's dad died of a heart attack (age 63) less than 2 months after "Rise" came out. Kind of ironic (and of course sad) given the storyline. My dad is going through stuff too. I thought the Alzheimer's angle was interesting and well done. Kind of POTA aging with it's fans. For those who think "Rise" is kind of empty-headed all I can say is I disagree.


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:00 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: R.I.P. "Rise" box office



Im in that generation also(51) and what you say is true. We were less sophisticated when it came to special effects. We filled in the blanks, like not seeing the antagonist in a melodrama. We went for story even as children. Thats why I used to feel we were a more savey generation but the performance of Rise worldwide might change my mind. Thats a big Might!
I loved Kong too because my father used to say that King Kong was his POTA and he encouraged my enthuiasm. Im alittle sad now and Rise is bitter sweet now that my father is in Lithgows characters mental condition. Always a tear. Anyway enough sentementality, the sequel story you suggest sounds very much how I feel they will go. I feel their might be better ways and the fact that not real Apes fanatics are in charge of this whole scenerio sometimes causes concern. I hope a sequel is even more political with less "Easter eggs" for us oldtimers. Take care, John M.
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Group: pota Message: 67224 From: James Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: FW: rca video disc
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From: William Burge
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:43 PM
Subject: rca video disc

 

dear group, In the early 80s rca had a video disc player and i had the planet title- the disc shows cover art front and back.  The movie was great until it skips like a record.  I took the machine back and a few movies to get my money back. I found out rca had a recall on the unit but i never went to get it back. from william burge :) happy

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Group: pota Message: 67225 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 11/30/2011
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That's a good question. Other than your "Fight for the Planet of the Apes" proposal, what else do folks here suggest? Maybe "Revenge on the POTA"? Would "Genesis of the POTA" be too akin to "Rise," title-wise?


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> It is a shame that today's generation has to go with the gimmicks. I agree that a better marketing plan would have helped Rise. But the movie did okay. At least we'll see a sequel. So I'm pretty stoked about that. Sure the Apes fans may not have the largest fanbase--but at least we have one and we don't have to rely on wimpy, shiny and glittery vampires for our entertainment.
>
>
>
>
>
> Well, the gimmick of a planet of talking apes and a makeup that was convincing sure caused an earlier generation -- mine -- to go crazy for some movies, so I think that's always been. Way back in 1933 the gimmick of a little puppet being turned into a giant gorilla-like monster caused another generation to go nuts. But, as you say, at last we'll see a sequel, and I'm getting nervous about it, because POTA is tricky material.
>
> I have a feeling that James Franco won't be back for the sequel. I got the sense from him that RISE was just a gig, and that he's moved on. I get a hunch that it's possible Brian Cox will be back, playing a Kolp-like nut-job survivor of the plague out to get revenge on Caesar for the killing of his son. I think we'll see the apes moving into the deserted cities looking for food (What is there for apes to eat in the forests of North America?) and taking over the old previously human habitats. The sequel will be something like BATTLE, but won't be any more a remake of BATTLE than RISE was a remake of CONQUEST. It may have aspects of the OMEGA MAN in it, and it may be as Rupert said, FULL METAL JACKET with apes. Which has me wondering if a possible title will be FIGHT FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES.
>
> Anybody else got RISE sequel title ideas?
>
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Group: pota Message: 67226 From: James Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: FW: beneath and planet photos
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From: William Burge
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:33 PM
Subject: beneath and planet photos

 

dear group, I found some neat beneath and planet photos. from william burge:) happy

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Group: pota Message: 67227 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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No two "of the"s. Maybe "Date With Destiny on the POTA".


From: georgetaylor68
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 7:33 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Rise sequel titles?




That's a good question. Other than your "Fight for the Planet of the Apes" proposal, what else do folks here suggest? Maybe "Revenge on the POTA"? Would "Genesis of the POTA" be too akin to "Rise," title-wise?
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Group: pota Message: 67228 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
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Precognition.
 
Chris L.
 
 
 
"Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote: 
 
>>How did you know you weren't going to like it?
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Group: pota Message: 67229 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
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"Haristas@..." <Haristas@...> wrote:
 
>>There's a lot wrong with RISE, and I was a little disappointed with
it, but I still think it's a good movie and better than all the original sequels
>>
 
We're clearly going to disagree on that. Two of the criticisms I used to see posted quite a bit about the original sequels (especially the last three) was that they didn't take place in the futuristic Ape society and that there weren't enough likeable ape characters. RISE is 0 for 2 on that count
 
 
>>...but RISE could have been much better if a more mature approach
had been taken.. <<
 
That I will agree with you on. It seemed like the entire film was directed towards the "Oooh, shiny!!" Ritalin addled brains of 20 somethings who'd actually believe that apes could leap through plate glass windows- several stories up- and survive the landing WITHOUT getting cut to ribbons.
 
 
Chris L.
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Group: pota Message: 67230 From: lawford42@juno.com Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
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A smart indie director could do it for $25 million. Hell, I could do it for $25 million. I wouldn't simply just recreate the original film though- I'd bring it into the present day and leave plenty of room for sequels, novels, and other ways to explore the franchise. Give the old school fans what they want AND bring a new audience in.
 
Chris L.
 
 
 
 
>>It's a bad thing from the studio's perspective. 99% of the
potential audience doesn't know classic APES except as "old movies." As much as Hollywood is addicted to remakes and sequels, they're not about to ask the current crop of so-called talent and commit a $100 Mill budget to faithfully recreate APES movies from 40 years ago. It just ain't gonna happen. <<
 
 
I wrote:

>>How is that a bad thing though? There are well
established characters, concepts, and stores that have barely been explored outside the original five films and two television series. Had that all been done since the 70's and we had 30+ years of original comic book stories, paperbacks, maybe a few other films in the classic POTA universe etc, then maybe I could see why some would see a need for a "reboot". That's not the case though, and all we've gotten are two films that have nothing to do with POTA and multiple comic book series of varying quality. <<
 
 
 
"Haristas@aol. com" (again):

>>I think that's because many APES fans just want to
see "The New Adventures On The Old Planet Of The Apes <<
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Group: pota Message: 67231 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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I always liked "Birth of the Planet of the Apes" ala Conquest alternate ending. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
>
>
> That's a good question. Other than your "Fight for the Planet of the Apes" proposal, what else do folks here suggest? Maybe "Revenge on the POTA"? Would "Genesis of the POTA" be too akin to "Rise," title-wise?
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 67232 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Planet of the Apes, 12/1/2011, 12:00 pm
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Reminder from:   pota Yahoo! Group
 
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Date:   Thursday December 1, 2011
Time:   12:00 pm - 2:00 pm
Location:   HBO Family
Notes:   Crashing into the future, stranded astronauts must fight for survival on a planet ruled by apes! This 1968 sci-fi classic was first in the wildly popular "ape" series.
 
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Group: pota Message: 67233 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
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You've never heard of Japan?
Really?  The had half a World
War over there not too long ago.
You must have see a movie or two.
 
 
In a message dated 11/30/2011 11:24:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
where's Okinawa?  Never heard of it.
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Group: pota Message: 67234 From: A REDMAN Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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birth is a cool title , but isnt it just another form of rise ? .... how about revolution ?
 
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Group: pota Message: 67235 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 12/1/2011
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Thanks Jessica and Haristas and all who commented.
Very informative and I'm glad to know they're still around.
As a child, I remember the Apes makeups as being amazing and I could never understand how they did it all. Of course now I now I know its prosthetics. But I'd really love to have them--at least one Chimpanzee set--if nothing else, we get a lot of American trick or treaters in onbase housing and although the Japanese don't necessarily celebrate Halloween, they do buy the decorations and do have some costume contests, etc. in town. So my goal is by October of 2012 to hopefully have something. I know now what the tax return check will be used for--much to the wife's chagrin--just kidding.
Although I'm a little hesitant to do so, I have wondered what it might be like to do so at a Con somewhere...but I'd have to see.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Jeremiah. Yes, they are still in business. You should get a quote from
> Brian at Apemania (afryt4u@...) --some of the stuff on the
> website is outdated as far as pricing. Apemania is wonderful.
>
> Also, you should also go to town dressed in full ape gear and make sure to
> take lots of photos. I don't think I have ever seen any photos of simians
> in Japan. You will be the first.
>
> Jess.
>
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Group: pota Message: 67236 From: James Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Fox Confirms Sequels to Rise of the Planet of The Apes and X-Men: First Class
Paste Magazine
Tom Rothman, the co-chairman of Fox Entertainment, has stated that the company plans on making sequels to two of this year's biggest hits, X-Men: First Class and Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Rothman also stated that he hoped that they would be able ...
See all stories on this topic »

Holiday 2011 DVD gift ideas
Windy City Times
Queer audience fave James Franco stars in one of the summer's biggest box office and critical hits, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, and (for once) the use of stop-motion animation is expertly utilized in creating the character of the talking monkey ...
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Windy City Times

Rise of the Planet of the Apes Interactive Blu-ray Trailer
TheHDRoom
Caesar and his mo-capped apes are ready to rise on Blu-ray and DVD on December 13. You've certainly by now either already seen Rise of the Planet of the Apes , or at least one of the several trailers or TV spots that ran when the film was released ...
See all stories on this topic »


TheHDRoom

Oscar Memo: Go Ape
NBC New York
Fox's push for an Academy Award nomination for Andy Serkis as simian rebel Caesar in "Rise of the Planet of the Apes " offers the strongest case yet for rewarding computer-enhanced performances. By Jere Hester Andy Serkis is the face behind Caesar of ...
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Remaking Scifi Films: The Economic Argument
Filmcritic.com
Planet of the Apes (2001): The original 1968 version made $32.6 million at the box office -- or $198 million in today's dollars. The 2001 version by Tim Burton made $180 million, which a decade on adjusts to $253 million. ...
See all stories on this topic »

Hunter's Planet Of the Apes Archive: BBC interview with Hunter ...
Hunter's Planet Of the Apes Archive Hunter Goatley's Planet Of The Apes Archive has been on my radar since 2007. That's when I discovered the abridged ...
www.sffaudio.com/?p=34578&amp;cpage=1

 

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Group: pota Message: 67237 From: James Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: FW: photo items
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From: William Burge
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:21 PM
Subject: photo items

 

dear group, I found some more neat photos - one is the costume test photo for nova but they used linda harrison and a home made dvd cover on beneath-neat artwork. from william burge :) happy

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Thanks Haristas, funny you should mention it, but I believe the movies here are sometimes in English with Japanese subtitles. I do know that in some cases they are also dubbed; however, in all honesty I probably wouldn't go see Rise in a Japanese theater due to it being way too expensive. I think it costs about $12 to $15 but don't quote me. As much as we love Japan, the culture, the people, the food and everything are really wonderful, and it has been a great experience, but things out on the economy can be pretty expensive.

I saw Rise at a US military theater and it was full to capacity--of course I went on opening day and everyone was really excited. It was with a bunch of Marines and their family members. Funny aside to this, I don't know if you ever read any posts on imdb (the Internet Movie Database)about Rise but there's this really insane and angry bruins fan who calls himself StanleyCupbruins and he's a troll. He bashes Apes fans whenever he gets the chance. He has an on-going rant about how much Rise has made and he recently said "loners and geeks everywhere are rejoicing." In another post he said that the only people who went to see the movie were a bunch of "wimps, loners,losers, Un-American blah, blah,blah." He also said that if he had gone to see the film he would have physically assaulted the people in line. I have to laugh at his comments because I really would have liked to have seen him try this with the Marines that I saw the movie with--Hee Hee. But its funny, I would never ever type anything as rude or belligerant as this guy has been posting. It was really quite uncalled for and the shame is that they can't really censor the guy. I chalk it up to someone being immature or possibly someone who has always just been a bully.But I do giggle at his comment about bullying people at a Rise opening, etc.

But I like Apes fans, because they are intelligent and don't resort to the kind of shenanigans that this guy tries to provoke. I was really quite impressed as most of the Apefans who commented back to the guy didn't lose their cool or get too hot under the collar or fly off the handle as this is what trolls are looking for.

Cheers.
J
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Jeremiah. Yes, they are still in business. You should get a quote from Brian at Apemania (afryt4u@...) --some of the stuff on the website is outdated as far as pricing. Apemania is wonderful.
>
> Also, you should also go to town dressed in full ape gear and make sure to take lots of photos. I don't think I have ever seen any photos of simians in Japan. You will be the first.
>
> Jess.
>
>
>
>
>
> There you go! I knew Jessica would know.
>
> So, Jeremiah is in Japan... Hey, did you see RISE there in a theatre? Did you have to look at Japanese subtitles?
>
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Group: pota Message: 67239 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: "Rise" Oscar campaign rolling
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I've noticed ads on websites that show Andy Serkis and "Caesar" with the headline "The Time is Now".
Here's the list of official "Rise" Oscar showings:

http://www.foxscreenings.com
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Group: pota Message: 67240 From: jessica rotich Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
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ha ha funny about that troll. I have never read the comments. Jeremiah, there are just some things that you have to ignore and let slide because there are bigger and mightier battles to fight for. It wouldn't be fair to wage a war with an idiot who is as important as a fly on an elephant's ass.

Jess.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 5:27 AM, JEREMIAH APE <rv.cupp01@...> wrote:


Thanks Haristas, funny you should mention it, but I believe the movies here are sometimes in English with Japanese subtitles. I do know that in some cases they are also dubbed; however, in all honesty I probably wouldn't go see Rise in a Japanese theater due to it being way too expensive. I think it costs about $12 to $15 but don't quote me. As much as we love Japan, the culture, the people, the food and everything are really wonderful, and it has been a great experience, but things out on the economy can be pretty expensive.

I saw Rise at a US military theater and it was full to capacity--of course I went on opening day and everyone was really excited. It was with a bunch of Marines and their family members. Funny aside to this, I don't know if you ever read any posts on imdb (the Internet Movie Database)about Rise but there's this really insane and angry bruins fan who calls himself StanleyCupbruins and he's a troll. He bashes Apes fans whenever he gets the chance. He has an on-going rant about how much Rise has made and he recently said "loners and geeks everywhere are rejoicing." In another post he said that the only people who went to see the movie were a bunch of "wimps, loners,losers, Un-American blah, blah,blah." He also said that if he had gone to see the film he would have physically assaulted the people in line. I have to laugh at his comments because I really would have liked to have seen him try this with the Marines that I saw the movie with--Hee Hee. But its funny, I would never ever type anything as rude or belligerant as this guy has been posting. It was really quite uncalled for and the shame is that they can't really censor the guy. I chalk it up to someone being immature or possibly someone who has always just been a bully.But I do giggle at his comment about bullying people at a Rise opening, etc.

But I like Apes fans, because they are intelligent and don't resort to the kind of shenanigans that this guy tries to provoke. I was really quite impressed as most of the Apefans who commented back to the guy didn't lose their cool or get too hot under the collar or fly off the handle as this is what trolls are looking for.

Cheers.
J
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Jeremiah. Yes, they are still in business. You should get a quote from Brian at Apemania (afryt4u@...) --some of the stuff on the website is outdated as far as pricing. Apemania is wonderful.


>
> Also, you should also go to town dressed in full ape gear and make sure to take lots of photos. I don't think I have ever seen any photos of simians in Japan. You will be the first.
>
> Jess.
>
>
>
>
>
> There you go! I knew Jessica would know.
>
> So, Jeremiah is in Japan... Hey, did you see RISE there in a theatre? Did you have to look at Japanese subtitles?
>


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Group: pota Message: 67241 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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No two "of the"s. Maybe "Date With Destiny on the POTA".



So many comments on the net from average people that hated the title for the reboot/prequel that I think Fox is going to have a hard time with this.
 
I wouldn't be surprised by anything they come up with.
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Group: pota Message: 67242 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Who's seeing "Rise of the Apes" today?
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A smart indie director could do it for $25 million. Hell, I could do it for $25 million. I wouldn't simply just recreate the original film though- I'd bring it into the present day and leave plenty of room for sequels, novels, and other ways to explore the franchise. Give the old school fans what they want AND bring a new audience in.
 
Chris L.

Well, there's the rub -- Fox owns it, you don't.  Fox isn't going to hand it over to an independant producer either, especially now that they've just made nearly half a billion dollars again from the concept -- and I write this thinking that Pierre Boulle is probably right now spinning in his grave.
 
Fox has been milking the POTA tit for decades now.  (It was Fox that wanted more APES sequels in the seventies, not Arthur P. Jacobs.)  Fox milked it until they ran it into the ground, then they treated it like dirt for years, then they bastardized it and ruined it for a decade, now they've given it new life and I have little doubt they'll run it into the ground again -- but hopefully not.  I doubt they care monkey bupkis (look that up if you want to know what it means) what old school APES fans want -- except that it doesn't suck like the Burton debacle.
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Group: pota Message: 67243 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: FW: rca video disc [3 Attachments]
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Luckily I never bought one of those machines, but a friend of mine did and she lived to regret it.  I did buy PLANET in this format, but when I realized the RCA Videodisc was going to die, I took my PLANET RCA disc to a store that was still selling them, put it in the player they had on display, started the movie for all the customers to see, and walked out of the store.


-----Original Message-----
From: James <JamesA1102@...>
To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2011 9:49 pm
Subject: [pota] FW: rca video disc [3 Attachments]

 
[Attachment(s) from James included below]
From: William Burge
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:43 PM
Subject: rca video disc
 
dear group, In the early 80s rca had a video disc player and i had the planet title- the disc shows cover art front and back.  The movie was great until it skips like a record.  I took the machine back and a few movies to get my money back. I found out rca had a recall on the unit but i never went to get it back. from william burge:) happy
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Group: pota Message: 67244 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
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You've never heard of Japan?
Really?  The had half a World
War over there not too long ago.
You must have see a movie or two.
I'm getting old and often don't pay too close attention to things.  It just simply didn't occur to me that there'd be someone in Japan in this group.  I tend to think of this as a US only kind of thing, so I didn't think this Okinawa was THE Okinawa.


-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0 <LordTZer0@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2011 7:40 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Apemania

 
 
 
You've never heard of Japan?
Really?  The had half a World
War over there not too long ago.
You must have see a movie or two.
 
 
In a message dated 11/30/2011 11:24:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
where's Okinawa?  Never heard of it.
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Group: pota Message: 67245 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
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OK, so now I know where this guy is coming from.  How stupid I was to imagine that Okinawa was some native American named town in Iowa or someplace -- but it wouldn't surprise me.
 
Anyway, I know of this "StanleyCupBruins" loser on IMDb.com.  Nuf said about him -- though getting beaten up by a bunch of Marines would be a nice fate for him..
By the way, my name is Rory, not Haristas -- that's just my AOL name, and it's straight out of Boulle's book.
 
I'd love to visit Japan, but I can imagine how expensive it is.

-----Original Message-----
From: JEREMIAH APE <rv.cupp01@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2011 9:08 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Apemania

 

Thanks Haristas, funny you should mention it, but I believe the movies here are sometimes in English with Japanese subtitles. I do know that in some cases they are also dubbed; however, in all honesty I probably wouldn't go see Rise in a Japanese theater due to it being way too expensive. I think it costs about $12 to $15 but don't quote me. As much as we love Japan, the culture, the people, the food and everything are really wonderful, and it has been a great experience, but things out on the economy can be pretty expensive.

I saw Rise at a US military theater and it was full to capacity--of course I went on opening day and everyone was really excited. It was with a bunch of Marines and their family members. Funny aside to this, I don't know if you ever read any posts on imdb (the Internet Movie Database)about Rise but there's this really insane and angry bruins fan who calls himself StanleyCupbruins and he's a troll. He bashes Apes fans whenever he gets the chance. He has an on-going rant about how much Rise has made and he recently said "loners and geeks everywhere are rejoicing." In another post he said that the only people who went to see the movie were a bunch of "wimps, loners,losers, Un-American blah, blah,blah." He also said that if he had gone to see the film he would have physically assaulted the people in line. I have to laugh at his comments because I really would have liked to have seen him try this with the Marines that I saw the movie with--Hee Hee. But its funn y, I would never ever type anything as rude or belligerant as this guy has been posting. It was really quite uncalled for and the shame is that they can't really censor the guy. I chalk it up to someone being immature or possibly someone who has always just been a bully.But I do giggle at his comment about bullying people at a Rise opening, etc.

But I like Apes fans, because they are intelligent and don't resort to the kind of shenanigans that this guy tries to provoke. I was really quite impressed as most of the Apefans who commented back to the guy didn't lose their cool or get too hot under the collar or fly off the handle as this is what trolls are looking for.

Cheers.
J
--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Jeremiah. Yes, they are still in business. You should get a quote from Brian at Apemania (afryt4u@...) --some of the stuff on the website is outdated as far as pricing. Apemania is wonderful.
>
> Also, you should also go to town dressed in full ape gear and make sure to take lots of photos. I don't think I have ever seen any photos of simians in Japan. You will be the first.
>
> Jess.
>
>
>
>
>
> There you go! I knew Jessica would know.
>
> So, Jeremiah is in Japan... Hey, did you see RISE there in a theatre? Did you have to look at Japanese subtitles?
>

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Group: pota Message: 67246 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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No two "of the"Apes. Why? My consternation has nothing to do with the title I thought of off the top of my head. I think we have abbreveation love and speak in computer type lol-see. A title for Apes just has to avoid silliness like Revenge, Peace and Tranquility on the..,War for the Planet of the Apes, maybe, Ascention, Revolution, Fight for , the "of the" rule limits a person badly. A title that suggests a War of Supremecy can be and is tough. WoW this gets annoying, Take Care, John M.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> No two "of the"s. Maybe "Date With Destiny on the POTA".
>
>
>
>
>
> So many comments on the net from average people that hated the title for the reboot/prequel that I think Fox is going to have a hard time with this.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised by anything they come up with.
>
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Group: pota Message: 67247 From: James Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: FW: rare german beneath poster
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From: William Burge
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 11:54 AM
Subject: rare german beneath poster

 

Dear group,  I found this rare german  beneath poster 1970. I like it it has different artwork on the poster. from william burge:) happy

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Group: pota Message: 67248 From: James Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: FW: more ape photos
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From: William Burge
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 11:44 AM
Subject: more ape photos

 

dear group,  Here are some neat rare photos from planet and beneath enjoy from william burge:) happy

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Group: pota Message: 67249 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
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lol...I know.
I just couldn't resist.
Not to stray too OT, but
resistance was futile.
 
 
In a message dated 12/1/2011 2:13:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
I didn't think this Okinawa was THE Okinawa.

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Group: pota Message: 67250 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: the Beaver reviews "Rise" blu ray!
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Group: pota Message: 67251 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
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I did that in Korea back in 1985 and I scared one of the bar girl when I walked in the bar.






-----Original Message-----
From: JEREMIAH APE <rv.cupp01@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2011 7:41 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Apemania





Thanks Jessica and Haristas and all who commented.
Very informative and I'm glad to know they're still around.
As a child, I remember the Apes makeups as being amazing and I could never understand how they did it all. Of course now I now I know its prosthetics. But I'd really love to have them--at least one Chimpanzee set--if nothing else, we get a lot of American trick or treaters in onbase housing and although the Japanese don't necessarily celebrate Halloween, they do buy the decorations and do have some costume contests, etc. in town. So my goal is by October of 2012 to hopefully have something. I know now what the tax return check will be used for--much to the wife's chagrin--just kidding.
Although I'm a little hesitant to do so, I have wondered what it might be like to do so at a Con somewhere...but I'd have to see.
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Group: pota Message: 67252 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/1/2011
Subject: Re: the Beaver reviews "Rise" blu ray!
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Leave it to the beaver!
 
 
"Rise of the Planet of the Apes" does it right. Smart, fun and thoroughly enjoyable, it's a model summer diversion that entertains without insulting your intelligence. Adroitly blending the most modern technology with age-old story elements, it's also an origin story that answers the question that's been hanging in the air since 1968: How did it happen that apes rule?
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Group: pota Message: 67253 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
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That's great!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
> I did that in Korea back in 1985 and I scared one of the bar girl when I walked in the bar.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JEREMIAH APE <rv.cupp01@...>
> To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2011 7:41 am
> Subject: [pota] Re: Apemania
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Jessica and Haristas and all who commented.
> Very informative and I'm glad to know they're still around.
> As a child, I remember the Apes makeups as being amazing and I could never understand how they did it all. Of course now I now I know its prosthetics. But I'd really love to have them--at least one Chimpanzee set--if nothing else, we get a lot of American trick or treaters in onbase housing and although the Japanese don't necessarily celebrate Halloween, they do buy the decorations and do have some costume contests, etc. in town. So my goal is by October of 2012 to hopefully have something. I know now what the tax return check will be used for--much to the wife's chagrin--just kidding.
> Although I'm a little hesitant to do so, I have wondered what it might be like to do so at a Con somewhere...but I'd have to see.
>
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Group: pota Message: 67254 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: Apemania
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Good point. Yeah, I knew this goon was a moron. I just had to relate the story about him saying he wanted to bully people in line, because he wouldn't have gotten away with that at the Marine Corps Air Station Futenma's theater. Apes fans are a class act and most of them chose to ignore his posts anyway.

Cheers
J

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> ha ha funny about that troll. I have never read the comments. Jeremiah,
> there are just some things that you have to ignore and let slide because
> there are bigger and mightier battles to fight for. It wouldn't be fair to
> wage a war with an idiot who is as important as a fly on an elephant's ass.
>
> Jess.
>
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Group: pota Message: 67255 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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Penance on the Planet of the Apes. My vision for a sequel is that the humans have messed themselves up with the plague so they're having to pay for what they've done--reap what they've sewn, etc. Kind of like paying for their past sins--so to speak. Will the apes be merciful? The humans are kind of asking for a new start, but since it's still early in the apes saga, the apes are just starting to take over and Caesar may have to decide what to do about the humans--should he trust them? Should he let a race that essentially destroyed themselves live or will he just tell them that they had their chance and flubbed it up. While Caesar is trying to make this decision, I'm pretty sure Koba will be there to try and influence the decision or possibly challenge Caesar's power with the goal of getting rid of the humans once and for all. Caesar saw Will Rodman as being like his father. If Will dies from the disease will Caesar go through the stages of mourning--such as anger, denial, etc.? Could he get angry enough after Will's death to blame humans for it--humans wanted to do the experimentation in the first place that led to their own demise.
Will he be angry with Will for killing himself and the human race?
Perhaps a twist and play on the title "Penance" would be that in the beginning, it's the humans who are asking for "penance" but in the end it's the apes who need it because they end up making a decision that they will have to pay for later--like messing with nuclear weapons or something. Perhaps Koba gets hold of a warhead, etc. to fight the humans with...etc., etc.

But I'm just playing around. Whatever they do I just hope they get a quality script, good actors and that they do the sequel justice.
There are so few sequels that are better than the originals, let's hope that the second film in the newly re-booted series is that sequel.

Cheers
J

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
>
>
> That's a good question. Other than your "Fight for the Planet of the Apes" proposal, what else do folks here suggest? Maybe "Revenge on the POTA"? Would "Genesis of the POTA" be too akin to "Rise," title-wise?
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 67256 From: jamesa1102 Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: The Ape/Marvel Archive
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Happy Friday! Today we premiere the first issue of THE APE: Ape City's weekly newspaper. Special thanks to Rich Handley and Brian Penikas for their help and support.

To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm.

Also, part 2 of Marvel's comic adaptation of "Conquest of the Planet of the Apes" is now available in the MARVEL ARCHIVE.

To access the ARCHIVE click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/Marvel.htm .

Have a great weekend everyone!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

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Group: pota Message: 67257 From: johnroche49 Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: The Ape/Marvel Archive
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'The Ape' is another winner---already installed as part of my 'thank goodness it's Friday' routine! Looking forward to more.Any chance of a swim suit section featuring Kira, Carsia et al? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Happy Friday! Today we premiere the first issue of THE APE: Ape City's
> weekly newspaper. Special thanks to Rich Handley and Brian Penikas for
> their help and support.
>
> To read THE APE, click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this
> link: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/TheApe.htm> .
>
> Also, part 2 of Marvel's comic adaptation of "Conquest of the Planet of
> the Apes" is now available in the MARVEL ARCHIVE.
>
> To access the ARCHIVE click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use
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Group: pota Message: 67258 From: Bill Hollweg Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: The Ape/Marvel Archive
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ROCK ON!!!!!!!!!!!
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Group: pota Message: 67259 From: jsurphlis Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: ceasar isn't a god
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i wouldn't want the next movie to show ceasar has the right to get rid of the human race, we did that to our sleves, letting the medical scientists do what they want to in the world labs.. the ones that come up after the 8 year's under ground, would still be speaking and smart enough to rebild some were on this planet, there number's wouldn't be like 7 billion, be a few thousand, the ape pop, might be more, but not 7 billion, the world would be a bigger place with less humans, and maybe we humans can rach for the stars. john
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Group: pota Message: 67260 From: James Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Contender – Visual Effects Supervisor Joe Letteri, <em>Rise of Planet of the ...
Below the Line
It may be a two-fer year for Joe Letteri: his work on the summer reboot of Fox's Planet of the Apes franchise has generated considerable buzz about how poignant digits can be in the form of Andy Serkis' mo-capped performance as Caesar – the chimp ...
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Below the Line

Adaptability key when diving into the unknown
Variety
Joe Letteri, who left his mark on two of this year's more spectacular f/x showcases -- "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" and "Tintin" -- agreed that educating directors is part of the process, but says the possibilities, once understood, ...
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http://nt3.ggpht.com/news/tbn/C-wCNPI1f-gJ
Variety

RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES DVD Release Billboard, East ...
RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES DVD Release Billboard, East Harlem, New York City.
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Should Andy Serkis's monkey capture a mo-cap Oscar?
The Guardian (blog)
Not only has the British star of Lord of the Rings seen a sequel to the summer's best popcorn sci-fi flick, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, greenlit by Fox, but the studio has begun its much discussed campaign to see their man nominated for an Oscar ...
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The Guardian (blog)

A Bloody Good Time 12.01.11: Sci-Fi Month (Part 5): Planet of the Apes
411mania.com
So now we're talking about Apes. Planet of the Apes is a franchise that I didn't really care for, truth be told. The original is a classic, but I'm not a huge fan of movies about talking monkeys and until the most recent prequel, didn't take it all ...
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Fox to mount Oscar campaign for Andy Serkis. Are you ready for a motion ...
Entertainment Weekly
by Jeff Labrecque Last month, Andy Serkis' rep hinted to EW that he expected a legitimate Best Supporting Actor Oscar campaign for his client, whose Caesar in Rise of the Planet of the Apes was by far the most compelling and fully-formed character that ...
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Group: pota Message: 67261 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: ceasar isn't a god
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i wouldn't want the next movie to show ceasar has the right to get rid of the human race, we did that to our sleves, letting the medical scientists do what they want to in the world labs.. the ones that come up after the 8 year's under ground, would still be speaking and smart enough to rebild some were on this planet, there number's wouldn't be like 7 billion, be a few thousand, the ape pop, might be more, but not 7 billion, the world would be a bigger place with less humans, and maybe we humans can rach for the stars. john



Well, in Boulle's book the simian population of Soror was outnumbered by the human population, even after 10,000 years, and I always got the impression from the original movie that the humans outnumbered the apes.
 
I think in the sequel we'll find the surviving humans still outnumber the apes, and the apes will be battling them simply to survive.
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 67262 From: A REDMAN Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: ceasar isn't a god
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this could go either way , but i too wouldnt want to see ceaser wiping out all humans although the virus could well do a lot of damage and if this does eventually lead up to the earth that taylor landed on well maybe not in ceasers time but in future generations man does become a dumb beast and apes hunt them for sport etc ..... maybe the films might keep humans speaking to pan things out a bit ??? 
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Group: pota Message: 67263 From: A REDMAN Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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in this months EMPIRE magazine it does indeed say that koba will become ceasers nemesis much like aldo and ceaser from battle ...... looking back at the earlier films aldo wanted all humans dead but ceaser brought piece to both ape and man . in escape cornelius tells us that the first ape to talk was indeed ALDO ,  which tells us  that before their coming back in time aldos actions would have began to bring humanity to its state of animalism in planet ..... the koba / ceaser thing will be interesting   
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Group: pota Message: 67264 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: "Rise" gets it's first nominations
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Doesn't sound like the Satellite Awards are very big but "Rise" got it's first movie nominations from them, for best FX and Best Supporting Actor for Serkis. It's a start.

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/in-contention/posts/satellite-award-nominations-topped-by-war-horse-and-drive
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Group: pota Message: 67265 From: James Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: FW: ape photos
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From: William Burge
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 11:02 AM
Subject: ape photos

 

dear group, here are some rare ape photos enjoy from william burge:) happy

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Group: pota Message: 67266 From: A REDMAN Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: FW: ape photos
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sweet pics thankyou sir
 
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Group: pota Message: 67267 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Taylor INTENTIONALLY blew up the Earth, right?
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Taylor INTENTIONALLY blew up the Earth, right? This photo suggests as such:

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/1226848/sn/984112274/name/1970+-+Copy.jpg

But the book which was at least loosely based on the screenplay, if I remember hearing correctly over 3 decades ago, had Taylor shot and ultimately falling on The Divine Bomb's control panel.

I wonder what his motives were for apparently intentionally blowing up Earth. The loss of Nova didn't help. More on that in a moment...
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Group: pota Message: 67268 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 12/2/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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If WETA can bring Nova back for the sequel without her being an anachronism or something, might "Curves on the POTA" be too risqué a title? I mean we chauvinists could claim that the curves refer to timelines which bend with each modification.

Aw what the heck, how about something more action-oriented? As the apes advance (while Nova's wardrobe hopefully regresses), couldn't "Penetration on the Planet of the Apes" work?

The Germans are to blame for my digression this evening. Have you seen this rare Beneath poster yet?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/attachments/folder/1224295338/item/1656112760/view

Wishing everyone a good weekend, from Houston...


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JEREMIAH APE" <rv.cupp01@...> wrote:
>
> Penance on the Planet of the Apes. My vision for a sequel is that the humans have messed themselves up with the plague so they're having to pay for what they've done--reap what they've sewn, etc. Kind of like paying for their past sins--so to speak. Will the apes be merciful? The humans are kind of asking for a new start, but since it's still early in the apes saga, the apes are just starting to take over and Caesar may have to decide what to do about the humans--should he trust them? Should he let a race that essentially destroyed themselves live or will he just tell them that they had their chance and flubbed it up. While Caesar is trying to make this decision, I'm pretty sure Koba will be there to try and influence the decision or possibly challenge Caesar's power with the goal of getting rid of the humans once and for all. Caesar saw Will Rodman as being like his father. If Will dies from the disease will Caesar go through the stages of mourning--such as anger, denial, etc.? Could he get angry enough after Will's death to blame humans for it--humans wanted to do the experimentation in the first place that led to their own demise.
> Will he be angry with Will for killing himself and the human race?
> Perhaps a twist and play on the title "Penance" would be that in the beginning, it's the humans who are asking for "penance" but in the end it's the apes who need it because they end up making a decision that they will have to pay for later--like messing with nuclear weapons or something. Perhaps Koba gets hold of a warhead, etc. to fight the humans with...etc., etc.
>
> But I'm just playing around. Whatever they do I just hope they get a quality script, good actors and that they do the sequel justice.
> There are so few sequels that are better than the originals, let's hope that the second film in the newly re-booted series is that sequel.
>
> Cheers
> J
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > That's a good question. Other than your "Fight for the Planet of the Apes" proposal, what else do folks here suggest? Maybe "Revenge on the POTA"? Would "Genesis of the POTA" be too akin to "Rise," title-wise?
> >
> >
>
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Group: pota Message: 67269 From: Mfx_specialprojects@yahoo.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Taylor INTENTIONALLY blew up the Earth, right?
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Perhaps, it was Taylor's pride or even his own greed, "If man can't have the planet, then neither shall ape!" Sad if true but it is a lest one possibility. He would forever refuse the idea that man could be better off governed by apes. Just a thought...
 
Mark 

From: georgetaylor68 <georgetaylor68@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2011 9:20 PM
Subject: [pota] Taylor INTENTIONALLY blew up the Earth, right?

 
Taylor INTENTIONALLY blew up the Earth, right? This photo suggests as such:

http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/1226848/sn/984112274/name/1970+-+Copy.jpg

But the book which was at least loosely based on the screenplay, if I remember hearing correctly over 3 decades ago, had Taylor shot and ultimately falling on The Divine Bomb's control panel.

I wonder what his motives were for apparently intentionally blowing up Earth. The loss of Nova didn't help. More on that in a moment...



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Group: pota Message: 67270 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Taylor INTENTIONALLY blew up the Earth, right?
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And Heston's.
When you think about it that way
no wonder Zaius wanted to get rid of him.
 
 
In a message dated 12/3/2011 12:11:17 A.M. Central Standard Time, mfx_specialprojects@... writes:
Perhaps, it was Taylor's pride or even his own greed
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Group: pota Message: 67271 From: johnroche49 Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" gets it's first nominations
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It's definitely a start and hopefully the start of a season of RISE nominations.Am I right in thinking that the number of nominations in each category of Oscar has been expanded this time around? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Doesn't sound like the Satellite Awards are very big but "Rise" got it's first movie nominations from them, for best FX and Best Supporting Actor for Serkis. It's a start.
>
> http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/in-contention/posts/satellite-award-nominations-topped-by-war-horse-and-drive
>
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Group: pota Message: 67272 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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That's pretty funny --the poster too. Maybe Frieda Pinto can don Nova's costume in the next movie.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
>
> If WETA can bring Nova back for the sequel without her being an anachronism or something, might "Curves on the POTA" be too risqué a title? I mean we chauvinists could claim that the curves refer to timelines which bend with each modification.
>
> Aw what the heck, how about something more action-oriented? As the apes advance (while Nova's wardrobe hopefully regresses), couldn't "Penetration on the Planet of the Apes" work?
>
> The Germans are to blame for my digression this evening. Have you seen this rare Beneath poster yet?
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/attachments/folder/1224295338/item/1656112760/view
>
> Wishing everyone a good weekend, from Houston...
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 67273 From: JEREMIAH APE Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: ceasar isn't a god
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True, he's not a god but I'm guessing the next film will draw some allustions to the others like Conquest and Battle. For instance, Caesar, most-likely will have to make a decision as to whether to accept humans into ape society or to make war with them, etc.

It'll be interesting to see how they play this out in the sequel.I'd also like to see how that casual reference to the Mars mission in Rise plays out. Although Rise is a re-boot and the Icarus in the film isn't necessarily the same exact ship from POTA 1968, I'd like to see if the new Apes films eventually get to a storyline depicting Apes in the distant future and those lost astronauts.

Cheers J.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jsurphlis" <littlejohn57@...> wrote:
>
> i wouldn't want the next movie to show ceasar has the right to get rid of the human race, we did that to our sleves, letting the medical scientists do what they want to in the world labs.. the ones that come up after the 8 year's under ground, would still be speaking and smart enough to rebild some were on this planet, there number's wouldn't be like 7 billion, be a few thousand, the ape pop, might be more, but not 7 billion, the world would be a bigger place with less humans, and maybe we humans can rach for the stars. john
>
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Group: pota Message: 67274 From: johnroche49 Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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Personally, I like the idea of an ongoing tradition of 'long' Apes titles--it gives us a special character, like the 'Road to ..' Crosby and Hope movies.It gives reviewers the chance to have a snope, which is good, as they have to say the title to make their point, and therefore pu=blicise the movie.I'd like a title with 'Genesis' in it---but I don't really mind so long as it's cumbersome and annoys folk.John, Scrolls.


--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
>
> No two "of the"Apes. Why? My consternation has nothing to do with the title I thought of off the top of my head. I think we have abbreveation love and speak in computer type lol-see. A title for Apes just has to avoid silliness like Revenge, Peace and Tranquility on the..,War for the Planet of the Apes, maybe, Ascention, Revolution, Fight for , the "of the" rule limits a person badly. A title that suggests a War of Supremecy can be and is tough. WoW this gets annoying, Take Care, John M.
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 67275 From: A REDMAN Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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 penetration hey ....ha ha that is funny it would certainly bring audiences in  
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Group: pota Message: 67276 From: S Man Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: The Office
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Did anyone catch "The Office" this week? Andrew Bernard said, "I was watching a movie and a bunch of apes took over San Francisco." so here we are!
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Group: pota Message: 67277 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" gets it's first nominations
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No, the only # of nominations that increased the last few years is Best Picture and that's tougher this year. They expanded the # to 10 nominees a few years ago (from 5) but now they have to get a minimum number of top votes. There can be anywhere from 5 to 10 nominees this year but a movie has to get at least 5% of votes as the top Best Picture to qualify as a nominee. So for example, if 5% of the Academy feels "Rise" is their top pick as Best Picture then it qualifies as a nominee. So if 10 pictures get that number of votes then there could be 10 nominees, but there won't be 10 nominees automatically. So probably if there's a few favorites that get all the votes it will cut down on the nominees. But so far there don't seem to be favorites this year. It's being called "a wide open field".
The other categories are the same as they've always been.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 1:52 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise" gets it's first nominations



It's definitely a start and hopefully the start of a season of RISE nominations.Am I right in thinking that the number of nominations in each category of Oscar has been expanded this time around? John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 67278 From: James Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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FYI

 

Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

 

Andy Serkis Slammed By Animators
Contactmusic.com
He embraced the technology again this year (11) with roles in Rise of the Planet of the Apes and Steven Spielberg's The Adventures of Tintin. But Serkis reveals he has fallen foul of some experts who combined visual effects with his movements and ...
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Contactmusic.com

Have Your Say: You can(not) get an Oscar for a Motion Captured Performance.
Twitch
by Ard Vijn, December 2, 2011 8:06 AM There is currently a bit of a buzz in the American movie industry about Andy Serkis being possibly nominated for "Best Supporting Actor" for his role in "Rise of the Planet of the Apes". ...
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Twitch

Andy Serkis on Who Sends Him Hate Mail; Why Oscar Should ...
By Tim Appelo
The "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" and "Adventures of Tintin" actor talks to THR about "The Hobbit" and whether motion-capture acting should have its own category at the Academy Awards.
Awards

With No Clear Oscar Front-runners, Studios Think Blockbusters Have a Shot ...
New York Magazine
And as a result, you're seeing studios make more of a Best Picture fight for mainstream flicks for which they ordinarily would have been happy just counting their grosses, like the Harry Potter finale and Rise of the Planet of the Apes. ...
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Group: pota Message: 67279 From: jamesa1102 Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: The Office
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I saw that. Nice to see references to the new movie.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "S Man" <masonverger12@...> wrote:
>
> Did anyone catch "The Office" this week? Andrew Bernard said, "I was watching a movie and a bunch of apes took over San Francisco." so here we are!
>

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Group: pota Message: 67280 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: "Rise" gets it's first nominations
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Speaking of which, here you go:

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/12/can-harry-potter-win-an-oscar.html"


From: Jeff K.
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 5:34 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: "Rise" gets it's first nominations



No, the only # of nominations that increased the last few years is Best Picture and that's tougher this year. They expanded the # to 10 nominees a few years ago (from 5) but now they have to get a minimum number of top votes. There can be anywhere from 5 to 10 nominees this year but a movie has to get at least 5% of votes as the top Best Picture to qualify as a nominee. So for example, if 5% of the Academy feels "Rise" is their top pick as Best Picture then it qualifies as a nominee. So if 10 pictures get that number of votes then there could be 10 nominees, but there won't be 10 nominees automatically. So probably if there's a few favorites that get all the votes it will cut down on the nominees. But so far there don't seem to be favorites this year. It's being called "a wide open field".
The other categories are the same as they've always been.

From: johnroche49
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 1:52 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Rise" gets it's first nominations

It's definitely a start and hopefully the start of a season of RISE nominations.Am I right in thinking that the number of nominations in each category of Oscar has been expanded this time around? John, Scrolls.
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Group: pota Message: 67281 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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penetration hey ....ha ha that is funny it would certainly bring audiences in  

An audience of guys in trench coats!
 
Are we devolving into this... I mean really?
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Group: pota Message: 67282 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: The Office
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Did anyone catch "The Office" this week? Andrew Bernard said, "I was watching a movie and a bunch of apes took over San Francisco." so here we are!



Wait until next week when "New APES" really starts being seen by people, because even though the movie has a worldwide gross of nearly half a billion, most people haven't seen RISE -- YET! -- and that's when it'll escape into the popular culture.  I'll bet it even turns up in next season's SIMPSONS.
 
However, "The Office"?  Can't stand that show.  In fact, I dislike most of the NBC sitcoms.
 
Believe it or not, I like 2 BROKE GIRLS!
 
OH NO!  Way off topic!
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Group: pota Message: 67283 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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Yes, Genesis of the Planet of the Apes. Lets go Biblical especially since the original Apes films sybolized and attacked religion in one way or another but never insulted it. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
> Personally, I like the idea of an ongoing tradition of 'long' Apes titles--it gives us a special character, like the 'Road to ..' Crosby and Hope movies.It gives reviewers the chance to have a snope, which is good, as they have to say the title to make their point, and therefore pu=blicise the movie.I'd like a title with 'Genesis' in it---but I don't really mind so long as it's cumbersome and annoys folk.John, Scrolls.
>
>
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Group: pota Message: 67284 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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Yes, Genesis of the Planet of the Apes. Lets go Biblical especially since the original Apes films symbolized and attacked religion in one way or another but never insulted it. Take care, John M.



Doesn't RISE followed by GENESIS seem a bit redundant?
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Group: pota Message: 67285 From: stenosaurus@aol.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: 2012 Conquest Calendar
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Very cool! I printed myself a copy and it's going up at work next month on my desk!
 
Bruce



-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 26, 2011 12:19 pm
Subject: [pota] 2012 Conquest Calendar

 
James has created a 2012 calendar to celebrate the 40th anniversary of Conquest of the Planet of the Apes!  You can download the PDF calendar from my Apes site:

https://pota.goatley.com/

Thanks, James!
-- 
Hunter
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Group: pota Message: 67286 From: JohnM conquest-idor Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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Yeah but running out of ideas. It is the Genesis literaly as I can tell by what we are told so the other route is to describe a Battle sort of since it will be presumably more a war for supremecy or war to stay alve film. Its also a film that either wipes out mankind or deals with it one way or the other. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Corny. Civil War on the Planet of the Apes...AAAAHHHH John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Yes, Genesis of the Planet of the Apes. Lets go Biblical especially since the original Apes films symbolized and attacked religion in one way or another but never insulted it. Take care, John M.
>
>
>
>
> Doesn't RISE followed by GENESIS seem a bit redundant?
>
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Group: pota Message: 67287 From: Jeff K. Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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What about "Ape Trek 2: the Wrath of Koba"?


From: JohnM conquest-idor
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:02 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Rise sequel titles?



Yeah but running out of ideas. It is the Genesis literaly as I can tell by what we are told so the other route is to describe a Battle sort of since it will be presumably more a war for supremecy or war to stay alve film. Its also a film that either wipes out mankind or deals with it one way or the other. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Corny. Civil War on the Planet of the Apes...AAAAHHHH John M.

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Group: pota Message: 67288 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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Yeah but running out of ideas. It is the Genesis literally as I can tell by what we are told so the other route is to describe a Battle sort of since it will be presumably more a war for supremacy or war to stay alive film. Its also a film that either wipes out mankind or deals with it one way or the other. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Corny. Civil War on the Planet of the Apes...AAAAHHHH John M.




Yeah, as I said, this is going to be problematic for Fox.  What's a title for another APES movie that has "Planet of the Apes" in it that's not corny?
 
BATTLE FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES has already been used, so I substituted FIGHT FOR..., but it's a problem...
 
To be continued....
 
-- Rory
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Group: pota Message: 67289 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: RISE continues to gross
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Nothing spectacular to report, but the current state of things, according to Box Office Mojo, are better than they were just a week ago.
 
It'll be a struggle that may take some time -- or it may not -- but RISE still could reach half a billion.
 
Total Worldwide gross as of December 3, 2011:
$480,925,128  
 
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 67290 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 12/3/2011
Subject: Re: Rise sequel titles?
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How about "SURVIVAL on the Planet of the Apes" then?

Getting warmer?

Food for thought from Houston...
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