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| Group: pota |
Message: 72953 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: old planet figures |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72954 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Re: dawn advance ticket ad [1 Attachment] |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72955 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Blu-ray: "Dawn" extended cut |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72956 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: zira bust display |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72957 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Re: dawn advance ticket ad |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72958 |
From: jedirob79 |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Planet of the Apes Retrospective - Podcast |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72959 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Dawn of the Acclaim |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72960 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Dawn of the Acclaim |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72961 |
From: lukeinoz |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Dawn coverage in Australia |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72963 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: dawn theatre poster |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72964 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: Reeves, Giacchino do Reddit |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72965 |
From: James |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72966 |
From: monkeymermaid65 |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: 7 planet of the apes moments |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72967 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: Re: 7 planet of the apes moments |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72968 |
From: johnmermigas |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Reeves, Giacchino do Reddit |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72969 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: dawn goodies |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72970 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: dawn review - the houston chronicle |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72971 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: "Dawn" box office predictions |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72972 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Just Saw the Dawn |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72973 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: a different dawn ad |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72974 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Hasslein Institute of Temporal Physics |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72975 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: My Review of PotA: Firestorm |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72976 |
From: Tim |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: An article on my collection! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72977 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: more dawn stuff |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72978 |
From: James Aquila |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: About to see Dawn |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72979 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Dawn's early light |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72980 |
From: Chris Hight |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Re: An article on my collection! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72981 |
From: monkeymermaid65 |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Re: An article on my collection! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72982 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Re: An article on my collection! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72983 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Seen it. |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72984 |
From: James Aquila |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Just saw Dawn |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72985 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Dawn's early light |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72986 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Tim's collection |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72987 |
From: Ian Boucher |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Dawn! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72988 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: dawn show cinemark |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72989 |
From: mlccougar |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Making of the NECA figures |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72990 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: dawn phone cover |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72991 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72992 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: APES still relevant today |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72993 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: planet art |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72994 |
From: James |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: FW: Dawn of the Planet of the Apes: "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72995 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72996 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72997 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72998 |
From: Tim |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72999 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73000 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73001 |
From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Spoilers |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73002 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: SPOILERS!! : "Battle" refs in "Dawn" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73003 |
From: Tim |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73004 |
From: Tim |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73005 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Interesting conversation... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73006 |
From: scottgeorge40 |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: SPOILERS!! : "Battle" refs in "Dawn" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73007 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73008 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Rise of the Dawn |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73009 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Spoilers |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73010 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: "Dawn" box office looking up |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73011 |
From: mlccougar |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73012 |
From: mlccougar |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Making of the NECA figures |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73013 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Spoilers |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73014 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: "Dawn" box office looking up |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73015 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Spoilers |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73016 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73017 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73018 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73019 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: The spirit of $73 million |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73020 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73021 |
From: James |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73022 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73023 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73024 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73025 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: The spirit of $73 million |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73026 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73027 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73028 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73029 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73030 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73031 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73032 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73033 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Additions to Hunter's archive |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73034 |
From: goatbusters |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: more beneath spain cards |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73035 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Jackie Earle Haley's Birthday, 7/14/2014, 12:00 am |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73036 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73037 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 6473 |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73038 |
From: Dario |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: more beneath spain cards |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73039 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: The Art of the Reboot |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73040 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Maltin's verdict on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73041 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73042 |
From: Tim |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: More press for my collection! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73043 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: More press for my collection! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73044 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73045 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Opening final: $72.6 million |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73046 |
From: Taebokitti |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73047 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: A Thought Has Occurred to Me.... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73048 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: dawn keychains |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73049 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: A Thought Has Occurred to Me.... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73050 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: A Thought Has Occurred to Me.... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73051 |
From: Ian Boucher |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: FYI: the Apes series is not racist |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73052 |
From: Stanley, Mark |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Spoilers |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73053 |
From: Ian Boucher |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: A Thought Has Occurred to Me.... |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72953 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: old planet figures |
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dear group, here are the box artwork for the planet figures for 2014 enjoy from william and also a original blueprint on the planet icarus spaceship. <.html |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72954 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Re: dawn advance ticket ad [1 Attachment] |
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When will you be seeing it, William? Looks like I'll be seeing it this Friday at a 1:30 matinee. Ape-propriate considering I saw the original first at an afternoon matinee.
-----Original Message-----
From: William Burge billburge48@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 9, 2014 1:09 pm
Subject: [pota] dawn advance ticket ad [1 Attachment]
dear group, here is a dawn advance ticket ad enjoy from william
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72955 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Blu-ray: "Dawn" extended cut |
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There's some serious monkey business on the
internet right now and it's hard to keep up with all the "Dawn" interviews and
so forth. But I thought this interview was worth noting. Director Matt Reeves
sez there was a finished longer version of "Dawn" (including music) that was cut
at the last minute. And that's what we'll (probably) see on video. He also talks
about the sequel (they're just getting started on writing it but it sounds like
it will continue from "Dawn" and not be set farther in the future).
A word of WARNING, Will Robinson: the interview
ENDS with a discussion of the ending but very vaguely.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72956 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: zira bust display |
.html.html dear group, here is a bust of dr zira head enjoy from william <.html |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72957 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Re: dawn advance ticket ad |
.html.html dear rory, I will see it on the sat matinee at cinemark theatres from william- hope it blows the box office wide open
On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 12:38 PM, "Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
When will you be seeing it, William? Looks like I'll be seeing it this Friday at a 1:30 matinee. Ape-propriate considering I saw the original first at an afternoon matinee.
-----Original Message-----
From: William Burge billburge48@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 9, 2014 1:09 pm
Subject: [pota] dawn advance ticket ad [1 Attachment]
dear group, here is a dawn advance ticket ad enjoy from william
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72958 |
From: jedirob79 |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Planet of the Apes Retrospective - Podcast |
| Group: pota |
Message: 72959 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Dawn of the Acclaim |
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With 43 reviews and only one negative, "Dawn of
the POTA" is at 98% at Rotten Tomatoes. Could Oscar finally come
calling?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72960 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Dawn of the Acclaim |
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With 43 reviews and only one negative, "Dawn of
the POTA" is at 98% at Rotten Tomatoes. Could Oscar finally come
calling?
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/OM4syht.gif[/IMG]
Don't know if that'll show up or not, but I liked it.
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>; PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 9, 2014 7:19 pm
Subject: [pota] Dawn of the Acclaim
With 43 reviews and only one negative, "Dawn of
the POTA" is at 98% at Rotten Tomatoes. Could Oscar finally come
calling?
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72961 |
From: lukeinoz |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: Dawn coverage in Australia |
.htmlA glowing review in Melbourne's Herald-Sun newspaper today, with the film nominated as "Film Of The Week" and a cover-feature in today's "Hit" supplement centred around Andy Serkis. Great to see ! Cheers, Luke
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72963 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/9/2014 |
| Subject: dawn theatre poster |
.html.html dear group, here is the largest dawn theatre poster from william <.html |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72964 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: Reeves, Giacchino do Reddit |
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"Dawn" director Matt Reeves and music composer
Michael Giacchino did a Reddit Q & A last night (7/9/14). What's groovy
about this, you ask? Well, first of all it's questions from the People, which
are always interesting. Instead of the same questions over and over from the
media. Second, it seems to be the first time the composer has talked about
"Dawn" (they put metal screws in the piano to give it a different sound but he
sez "you can make things strange and weird, but you never want to lose sight of
what's important, which is the emotions, and the character".
Also, it looks like Giacchino agrees to do the
next "Apes" live during this Q & A. Reddit and weep!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72965 |
From: James |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
.html.html |
 | | | "planet of the apes" Daily update
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Dawn of the Planet of the Apes starring Andy Serkis, Gary Oldman and Keri Russell arrives in UK cinemas on 17th July and to celebrate, we're giving ... |
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Broadway World Sony Classical is pleased to announce the release of the original motion picture soundtrack of Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, composed by the ... | | | | | | | | |
Why The New Planet Of The Apes Movie Doesn't Suck theMusic The sly storytelling audaciousness of Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes is currently staring at us from every bus-stop, every billboard, every placard on ... | | |
Was 2001 Remake 'Planet Of The Apes' Really That Bad? Uproxx Because everything is getting remade these days, and the rest of the Uproxx team is still punishing me for the "chalupa incident", I've been reviewing ... | | | | | |
Quarter Scale Dawn of the Planet of the Apes Caesar Statue Revealed by Pop Culture Shock Action Figure Fury This statue is in the quarter scale and depicts Caesar from Dawn of the Planet of the Apes from one of the most iconic shots from the trailer where the ...
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Continuity of the Planet of the Apes: A Planet of the Apes Timeline Den of Geek (US) In the case of the Planet of the Apes franchise, however, producer Arthur P. Jacobs wanted something more, a continuing storyline on a grand scale, ...
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72966 |
From: monkeymermaid65 |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: 7 planet of the apes moments |
| Group: pota |
Message: 72967 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: Re: 7 planet of the apes moments |
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Don Rickles sure made a good orangutan.
-----Original Message-----
From: monkeymermaid65@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 11:50 am
Subject: [pota] 7 planet of the apes moments
Looking forward to the new film. I have my tickets for the ape double feature tonight!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72968 |
From: johnmermigas |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Reeves, Giacchino do Reddit |
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.html Metal screws in a Piano is a type of "Prepared" or "Tack Piano". It gives a clicking sound, almost a hard pick on bass guitar sound. This technique was used in Planet, Escape and Conquest and many Brian Wilson (Beach Boys) songs. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72969 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: dawn goodies |
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dear group, here are some neat dawn items the ist one is a neon sign in new york on 42nd avenue- enjoy from william <.html |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72970 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/10/2014 |
| Subject: dawn review - the houston chronicle |
.html.html dear group, here are two pages from a write up in the houston paper enjoy from william <.html |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72971 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: "Dawn" box office predictions |
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Good reviews are fine, but on opening weekend a
young ape's fancy turns to the box office. Fox is reportedly expecting Dawn's
opening to be on par with "Rise" (which opened to $54 million). Fandango is
being a little more charitable, saying presales are in line with what "World War
Z" was doing (it's opening wuz $66 million). Forbes concurs, predicting a $60 -
$65 million opening, maybe $70 million tops. Some of the bigger movies this
summer opened in the $90 million range, but no one has hit $100 million, not
even the mighty "Transformers".
So predictions for "Dawn" are kinda mediocre, but
"Rise" surprised everybody so who knows? "Dawn" might be too dark and violent
(not "fun" violent) for some audiences and families. But in some ways the story
and wow FX factor are similar to "Avatar", the biggest hit of all time.
Considering how much people seem to love this movie, "Dawn" may show where the
cap is for a POTA movie. POTA has always been more of a cult thing than a huge,
popular franchise. This weekend may set the tone for "Apes" going forward.
Good luck, primates.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72972 |
From: ape_mom |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Just Saw the Dawn |
.htmlHi Strangers! I was so excited to get an invitation (through my workplace) to see the premier of The Dawn of the Planet of the Apes. No spoilers, just happy to have had the opportunity. Good movie, somewhat reminiscent of the style of the recent King Kong. It's easy to be critical of the chinks in the storyline, but there was continuity and good flow. In all, it felt good to have Apes filling the theater and brings me nostalgically back to the group. Am anxious to hear how you all felt about the Dawn.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72973 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: a different dawn ad |
.html.html dear group, here is a different dawn ad from the land down under - good day mate from william <.html |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72974 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Hasslein Institute of Temporal Physics |
.htmlIt's friday and DAWN is finally here! Before heading out the the theater today check out this week's installment of the HASSLEIN INSTITUTE OF TEMPORAL PHYSICS. Thanks to everyone who contributed.
To read the HASSLEIN INSTITUTE click the banner on the group's home page or use this link: http://www.potamediaarchive.com/HI.htm.
Have a great weekend everybody!
Visit all the Group's special features including: |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72975 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: My Review of PotA: Firestorm |
.htmlGoing to see the movie tonight or tomorrow. Can't wait. Dario |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72976 |
From: Tim |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: An article on my collection! |
| Group: pota |
Message: 72977 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: more dawn stuff |
.html.html dear group, I found some more dawn material enjoy from william <.html |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72978 |
From: James Aquila |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: About to see Dawn |
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At the Kips Bay theater waiting for the 4PM showing of Dawn. 😊 <.html |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72979 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Dawn's early light |
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"Dawn of the POTA" reportedly made $4.1 million
from early screenings (pre-opening day), the screenings where people just have
to see it right away. Where does it stack up with the other blockbusters this
summer? Here's a handy chart:
So far "Dawn" continues to be more in line with
last summer's "World War Z" in terms of "gotta see it right now!" event status.
Z made $3.6 million from it's early showings (and it had that sexy Brad Pitt,
couldn't you just die?) and made $66 million it's opening weekend (around where
"Dawn" is expected to land). Eventually it made $540 million world wide.
In contrast, the heavy hitters this summer
doubled or better Apes' opening night.
Capt. America: $10.2 m. Thursday, $95 m.
opening
Godzilla: $9.3 m. Thursday, $93.1 m.
opening
Transformers: $8.7 m. Thursday, $97.5 m.
opening
Spidey: $8.7 m. Thursday, $91.6 m.
opening
X-Men: $8.1 m. Thursday, $90.8 m.
opening
So is "Dawn" the "World War Z" of the summer? I sure
hope not. Of course it is early and Americans have not been carrying their share
of the box office load like they used to. The saviors have been, well, the
countries that aren't America. So we'll see where "Dawn" ends up this weekend
around the world. Let's hope it's a movie that people may not rush out to see,
but they will see.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72980 |
From: Chris Hight |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Re: An article on my collection! |
.html.html Great stuff. Luv the video!
On Friday, July 11, 2014 1:53 PM, "Tim apefan23@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Our local paper, The Charlotte Observer, came to check out my collection! Check it out.....
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/07/11/5037878/charlotte-actor-goes-ape-over.htmlsp=/99/122/
Tim
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72981 |
From: monkeymermaid65 |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Re: An article on my collection! |
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.html What an awesome ape room!!! I would love to have a Cornelius / Galen drum. <.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72982 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Re: An article on my collection! |
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Very nice, Tim. I'll have to get over to Charlotte one of these days to meet you and check it out.
Rory (who just saw DAWN)
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To: POTA <pota@yahoogroups.com>; POTADG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 11, 2014 1:53 pm
Subject: [pota] An article on my collection!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72983 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Seen it. |
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Well, finally all the waiting is over and I saw it this afternoon at 1:30 at the Carmike Cinema in Hickory, NC at what they call the "Big D" auditorium, 500 seats and a big ass screen, over 60 feet, I think. Being 1:30 on a Friday afternoon there weren't 500 people seeing the movie with me, but a decent crowd, both young and old.
Anyway, the movie.... all I'll say for now is that I liked it, of course, but just as with RISE, there was something unsatisfactory about it, which isn't to say I'm negative on it, but... I can't really talk about it because of spoilers, so I'll just have to wait.
I'll probably be going to it again on Sunday, and I'm hoping for a packed theatre this time. I saw it in 2D today, but will see it in 3D on Sunday.
Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72984 |
From: James Aquila |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Just saw Dawn |
| Group: pota |
Message: 72985 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Dawn's early light |
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After last week's disappointing box office, I guess people are getting a little mid-summer movie fatigue. Hopefully this weekend will be better. Still, DAWN will probably be the best reviewed movie of the summer (except for may be BOYHOOD).
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>; PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jul 11, 2014 6:48 pm
Subject: [pota] Dawn's early light
"Dawn of the POTA" reportedly made $4.1 million
from early screenings (pre-opening day), the screenings where people just have
to see it right away. Where does it stack up with the other blockbusters this
summer? Here's a handy chart:
So far "Dawn" continues to be more in line with
last summer's "World War Z" in terms of "gotta see it right now!" event status.
Z made $3.6 million from it's early showings (and it had that sexy Brad Pitt,
couldn't you just die?) and made $66 million it's opening weekend (around where
"Dawn" is expected to land). Eventually it made $540 million world wide.
In contrast, the heavy hitters this summer
doubled or better Apes' opening night.
Capt. America: $10.2 m. Thursday, $95 m.
opening
Godzilla: $9.3 m. Thursday, $93.1 m.
opening
Transformers: $8.7 m. Thursday, $97.5 m.
opening
Spidey: $8.7 m. Thursday, $91.6 m.
opening
X-Men: $8.1 m. Thursday, $90.8 m.
opening
So is "Dawn" the "World War Z" of the summer? I sure
hope not. Of course it is early and Americans have not been carrying their share
of the box office load like they used to. The saviors have been, well, the
countries that aren't America. So we'll see where "Dawn" ends up this weekend
around the world. Let's hope it's a movie that people may not rush out to see,
but they will see.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72986 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Tim's collection |
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Tim - great video, have we ever figured out if you have the largest collection in the world yet ? So impressive !!!
Saw the movie last night - amazing !!!
Hope everyone else enjoys it !
For anyone who missed out I have a couple of the new summer release POTA items available at
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72987 |
From: Ian Boucher |
Date: 7/11/2014 |
| Subject: Dawn! |
.htmlHey Gang! I loved it, especially the first half!
Especially the scene where Malcolm goes to the gate of Ape City -- I really felt the fear and awe there. I also loved the music.
I loved how I couldn't predict the structure of it.
I loved when the power goes back on, and when Koba takes over, and the symbolism of Koba's name.
And lots more!
Regardless of my lifelong love for the Apes movies, I think this is probably the best Hollywood movie of 2014 so far. Also, very weird to actually feel able to say this, but I think it's my favorite one after the 1968 original, and that's a lot to get it past 3 and 4 for me.
-Ian! |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72988 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: dawn show cinemark |
.html.html dear group, Just saw the friday night showing in houston tx at cinemark memorial city mall in theatre 3 -- here is the ticket stub from the 6.25 show. the film blew me away. the director left it wide open for the next installment in 2016. this film should win for best picture in 2015 . the theatre was packed . great soundtrack . from william <.html |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72989 |
From: mlccougar |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Making of the NECA figures |
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.html .html.htmlHere's a brief interview with the sculptor of the upcoming "Classic Apes" figures from NECA:
http://13thdimension.com/exclusive-making-of-necas-classic-apes-figures/?utm_campaign=13dimrandyint&utm_source=necafbgplus&utm_medium=social
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72990 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: dawn phone cover |
.html.html dear group, on ebay I FOUND A DAWN PHONE COVER PRETTY NEAT FROM WILLIAM <.html |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72991 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Thoughts on DAWN |
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Just posted this on a DAWN forum thread at Blu-ray.com. Thought I'd post it here to see if anyone feels similarly after seeing DAWN. Don't think I'm spoiling anything. Anyway, I know it's early, but let's get some DAWN talk going here.
"Saw it yesterday. As is usual with modern film criticism, any movie that's merely better than average gets hailed as a masterpiece. Well, DAWN OF THE PLANET OF THE APES is far from a masterpiece, but it is better than most of the brain dead Hollywood product that passes for summer blockbusters today. As a nearly life long APES fanatic (I saw the original film when it first came out in April '68 when I was eight -- and it remains my favorite movie of all time), I think DAWN is good, but also frustratingly unsatisfactory. The story is very simple and doesn't really move the concept of a planet ruled by apes that much further along from the "rise" that was depicted in the first of these reboot movies. It's been less than twenty-four hours since I saw it, but I'm mystified and annoyed by DAWN's conclusion. I'm not sure where it leaves things. From what
I've read there was a more definitive conclusion but the director decided to leave it out. I can only guess that he wants to leave the audience with more questions than answers. In that he has succeeded. I look forward to the next installment now with not much more than a hope that we'll simply get closer to what the essence of the concept really is, but I'm not sure the next one will do that. It looks like the next movie will not be set that much further in time -- and I won't say more for those that haven't seen the movie yet. One thing the movie has done for me is that it's made me tired of looking at naked apes. The animators have gone out of their way to make these CGI apes the most neutered animals to ever walk the earth but for me it's become a distraction, so I hope that in the next one they'll at least put some pants on these creatures. Also, let's get more apes
talking, however I doubt the next movie will be set any further than a few weeks after this one, so it may be a long wait for anything resembling the original planet of the apes concept. While I accept these reboots as prequels that will lead to the world of the original 1968 film, the events depicted in DAWN have about as much relevance to those in the '68 PLANET OF THE APES as a gang fight in the streets of ancient Rome have to current US politics. So all I can say after all the anticipation for this movie is, "Damn it all to hell, let's get moving!"'
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72992 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: APES still relevant today |
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Pretty much agree with this...
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72993 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: planet art |
.html.html dear group, I found a pretty neat art print of planet enjoy from william <.html |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72994 |
From: James |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: FW: Dawn of the Planet of the Apes: "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes |
.html.html Dawn of the Planet of the Apes: "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes | Survivor's Story [HD] | 20th Centu..." <.html |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72995 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
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Anyone have a suggest as to what's the best website to order these from? I'm not one to travel to a Toys-r-us (that's so '90s now).
The look great, by the way, though Dr. Zaius is too skinny.
-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 12, 2014 2:03 pm
Subject: [pota] Making of the NECA figures
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72996 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
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All I can say about that is I'd rather go to
Toyz-R-Us and pick out a good one than order online and maybe get a bad paint
job or something. If people stare at you at Toyz-R-Us, just yell, "What are you
looking at?!".
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 12:15 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Making of the NECA figures
Anyone have a suggest as to what's the best website to order these
from? I'm not one to travel to a Toys-r-us (that's so '90s now).
The look great, by the way, though Dr. Zaius is too skinny.
-----Original
Message----- From: mlccougar@...
[pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> To: PotaDG
< PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Cc: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Sat, Jul 12, 2014 2:03 pm Subject: [pota] Making of the NECA figures
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72997 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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"I thought we had a chance". - -
- Malcolm
Saw it again. Liked it more than the first time.
I think that's because the first time it's wide open and the film battles with
my own ideas of what it could be. The second time I know what it is and I can
just watch it on it's own terms. That doesn't mean I settle or make excuses but
I look at it as THE film.
I agree with the director going this route
and showing the ape development (the Rupert Wyatt script was further along in
their evolution). And as I said in my earlier review, I like the apes struggling
with their speech as if they're still evolving. There's plenty of time to wear
pants later. The story is simple but I see it as a replay of "Battle" and I felt
that even more the second time. The director wanted to show the apes and humans
almost being able to live together but blowing it. Damnation in the Garden of
Eden. A valid story. Reminded me a lot of the Dawn of Man in "2001" (POTA's 1968
sci-fi brother) so the "Dawn" title works.
The director wants more time but I think Fox
can't resist a movie in 2018 for the 50th anniversary. So if the director can
squeeze in a final story set in this era in 2016 and then go forward in time
toward the 1968 society in 2018, I think that would be a great way to celebrate.
The director would be near death but he'll have a good trilogy and be set for
life. So I see "Rise" and "Dawn" as a nice progression, depending on what comes
next. Neither are masterpieces but I love them.
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:16 AM
Subject: [pota] Thoughts on DAWN
Just posted this on a DAWN
forum thread at Blu-ray.com. Thought I'd post it here to see if
anyone feels similarly after seeing DAWN. Don't think I'm spoiling
anything. Anyway, I know it's early, but let's get some DAWN talk
going here.
"Saw it yesterday. As is
usual with modern film criticism, any movie that's merely better than average
gets hailed as a masterpiece. Well, DAWN OF THE PLANET OF THE APES is far
from a masterpiece, but it is better than most of the brain dead Hollywood
product that passes for summer blockbusters today. As a nearly life long
APES fanatic (I saw the original film when it first came out in April '68
when I was eight -- and it remains my favorite movie of all time), I think
DAWN is good, but also frustratingly unsatisfactory. The story is very
simple and doesn't really move the concept of a planet ruled by apes that much
further along from the "rise" that was depicted in the first of these reboot
movies. It's been less than twenty-four hours since I saw it, but I'm
mystified and annoyed by DAWN's conclusion. I'm not sure where it
leaves things. From what I've read there was a more definitive conclusion
but the director decided to leave it out. I can only guess that he wants
to leave the audience with more questions than answers. In that he has
succeeded. I look forward to the next installment now with not much more
than a hope that we'll simply get closer to what the essence of the concept
really is, but I'm not sure the next one will do that. It looks like the
next movie will not be set that much further in time -- and I won't say
more for those that haven't seen the movie yet. One thing the movie
has done for me is that it's made me tired of looking at naked
apes. The animators have gone out of their way to make these CGI
apes the most neutered animals to ever walk the earth but for me it's become a
distraction, so I hope that in the next one they'll at least put some pants on
these creatures. Also, let's get more apes talking, however
I doubt the next movie will be set any further than a few weeks after this
one, so it may be a long wait for anything resembling the original planet of the
apes concept. While I accept these reboots as prequels that will lead to
the world of the original 1968 film, the events depicted in DAWN have about as
much relevance to those in the '68 PLANET OF THE APES as a gang fight in the
streets of ancient Rome have to current US politics. So all I can say
after all the anticipation for this movie is, "Damn it all to hell, let's get
moving!"'
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| Group: pota |
Message: 72998 |
From: Tim |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
.html.html Entertainment Earth has always been reliable... On Jul 12, 2014, at 3:15 PM, "Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Anyone have a suggest as to what's the best website to order these from? I'm not one to travel to a Toys-r-us (that's so '90s now).
The look great, by the way, though Dr. Zaius is too skinny.
-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: PotaDG < PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 12, 2014 2:03 pm
Subject: [pota] Making of the NECA figures
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Message: 72999 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
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Thanks Tim. I just checked it out and they'll be selling the set for $49.99 plus shipping (which I hope isn't too much) in August. I didn't pre-order it just yet but I will soon.
As for going to Toys-R-Us.... the one closest to me is in Asheville, NC and is probably about a 45 minute drive. I'd have to call the store first and make sure they had them and so on... I'd rather just order it on-line and have it delivered to my front door. It is the 21st century after all, but if you enjoy going to Toys-R-Us, more power to you. Frankly, I've never enjoyed the place, probably because I briefly worked in one in the late seventies where the manager once said in the breakroom, "Remember that 'Planet of the Apes' stuff? (He was referring to all the Mego toys.) Boy, did we have to eat that." That was a Toys-R-Us in Levittown, Long Island, New York. I wonder if it's still there.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim apefan23@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 12, 2014 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Making of the NECA figures
Entertainment Earth has always been reliable...
On Jul 12, 2014, at 3:15 PM, "Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Anyone have a suggest as to what's the best website to order these from? I'm not one to travel to a Toys-r-us (that's so '90s now).
The look great, by the way, though Dr. Zaius is too skinny.
-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: PotaDG < PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 12, 2014 2:03 pm
Subject: [pota] Making of the NECA figures
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Message: 73000 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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I'll be seeing it again tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too, because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I want to see the development of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it. Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that the commitment of the studio remains high.
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 12, 2014 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Thoughts on DAWN
"I thought we had a chance". - -
- Malcolm
Saw it again. Liked it more than the first time.
I think that's because the first time it's wide open and the film battles with
my own ideas of what it could be. The second time I know what it is and I can
just watch it on it's own terms. That doesn't mean I settle or make excuses but
I look at it as THE film.
I agree with the director going this route
and showing the ape development (the Rupert Wyatt script was further along in
their evolution). And as I said in my earlier review, I like the apes struggling
with their speech as if they're still evolving. There's plenty of time to wear
pants later. The story is simple but I see it as a replay of "Battle" and I felt
that even more the second time. The director wanted to show the apes and humans
almost being able to live together but blowing it. Damnation in the Garden of
Eden. A valid story. Reminded me a lot of the Dawn of Man in "2001" (POTA's 1968
sci-fi brother) so the "Dawn" title works.
The director wants more time but I think Fox
can't resist a movie in 2018 for the 50th anniversary. So if the director can
squeeze in a final story set in this era in 2016 and then go forward in time
toward the 1968 society in 2018, I think that would be a great way to celebrate.
The director would be near death but he'll have a good trilogy and be set for
life. So I see "Rise" and "Dawn" as a nice progression, depending on what comes
next. Neither are masterpieces but I love them.
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:16 AM
Subject: [pota] Thoughts on DAWN
Just posted this on a DAWN
forum thread at Blu-ray.com. Thought I'd post it here to see if
anyone feels similarly after seeing DAWN. Don't think I'm spoiling
anything. Anyway, I know it's early, but let's get some DAWN talk
going here.
"Saw it yesterday. As is
usual with modern film criticism, any movie that's merely better than average
gets hailed as a masterpiece. Well, DAWN OF THE PLANET OF THE APES is far
from a masterpiece, but it is better than most of the brain dead Hollywood
product that passes for summer blockbusters today. As a nearly life long
APES fanatic (I saw the original film when it first came out in April '68
when I was eight -- and it remains my favorite movie of all time), I think
DAWN is good, but also frustratingly unsatisfactory. The story is very
simple and doesn't really move the concept of a planet ruled by apes that much
further along from the "rise" that was depicted in the first of these reboot
movies. It's been less than twenty-four hours since I saw it, but I'm
mystified and annoyed by DAWN's conclusion. I'm not sure where it
leaves things. From what I've read there was a more definitive conclusion
but the director decided to leave it out. I can only guess that he wants
to leave the audience with more questions than answers. In that he has
succeeded. I look forward to the next installment now with not much more
than a hope that we'll simply get closer to what the essence of the concept
really is, but I'm not sure the next one will do that. It looks like the
next movie will not be set that much further in time -- and I won't say
more for those that haven't seen the movie yet. One thing the movie
has done for me is that it's made me tired of looking at naked
apes. The animators have gone out of their way to make these CGI
apes the most neutered animals to ever walk the earth but for me it's become a
distraction, so I hope that in the next one they'll at least put some pants on
these creatures. Also, let's get more apes talking, however
I doubt the next movie will be set any further than a few weeks after this
one, so it may be a long wait for anything resembling the original planet of the
apes concept. While I accept these reboots as prequels that will lead to
the world of the original 1968 film, the events depicted in DAWN have about as
much relevance to those in the '68 PLANET OF THE APES as a gang fight in the
streets of ancient Rome have to current US politics. So all I can say
after all the anticipation for this movie is, "Damn it all to hell, let's get
moving!"'
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Message: 73001 |
From: pota-owner@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Spoilers |
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Message: 73002 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: SPOILERS!! : "Battle" refs in "Dawn" |
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SPOILER SPACE
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Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 2:24 PM
Subject: possible spoilers: "Battle" refs in
"Dawn"
"Dawn" may not be a perfect movie but I think
it's a perfect retelling of "Battle". Here's some of the references I picked up
(intentional or not). Any others?
Ape Shall Not Kill Ape
treehouses
old buses
the humans rounded up
an emphasis on Caesar's son
An ape finds that guns are power and becomes
leader
Caesar travels to a destroyed human building where
he sees video of his deceased family and also decides what it is he'd like to
change
Climactic battle up high between the ape
protagonist and antagonist, with one falling to their death
Extra credit, "Beneath" reference: gorillas using
a log to bust open a door
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Message: 73003 |
From: Tim |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
.html.html I would love to see Caesar in the third one... Maybe ten years further. On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:17 PM, "Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I'll be seeing it again tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too, because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I want to see the development of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it. Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that the commitment of the studio remains high.
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To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 12, 2014 4:37 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Thoughts on DAWN
"I thought we had a chance". - -
- Malcolm
Saw it again. Liked it more than the first time.
I think that's because the first time it's wide open and the film battles with
my own ideas of what it could be. The second time I know what it is and I can
just watch it on it's own terms. That doesn't mean I settle or make excuses but
I look at it as THE film.
I agree with the director going this route
and showing the ape development (the Rupert Wyatt script was further along in
their evolution). And as I said in my earlier review, I like the apes struggling
with their speech as if they're still evolving. There's plenty of time to wear
pants later. The story is simple but I see it as a replay of "Battle" and I felt
that even more the second time. The director wanted to show the apes and humans
almost being able to live together but blowing it. Damnation in the Garden of
Eden. A valid story. Reminded me a lot of the Dawn of Man in "2001" (POTA's 1968
sci-fi brother) so the "Dawn" title works.
The director wants more time but I think Fox
can't resist a movie in 2018 for the 50th anniversary. So if the director can
squeeze in a final story set in this era in 2016 and then go forward in time
toward the 1968 society in 2018, I think that would be a great way to celebrate.
The director would be near death but he'll have a good trilogy and be set for
life. So I see "Rise" and "Dawn" as a nice progression, depending on what comes
next. Neither are masterpieces but I love them.
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:16 AM
Subject: [pota] Thoughts on DAWN
Just posted this on a DAWN
forum thread at Blu-ray.com. Thought I'd post it here to see if
anyone feels similarly after seeing DAWN. Don't think I'm spoiling
anything. Anyway, I know it's early, but let's get some DAWN talk
going here.
"Saw it yesterday. As is
usual with modern film criticism, any movie that's merely better than average
gets hailed as a masterpiece. Well, DAWN OF THE PLANET OF THE APES is far
from a masterpiece, but it is better than most of the brain dead Hollywood
product that passes for summer blockbusters today. As a nearly life long
APES fanatic (I saw the original film when it first came out in April '68
when I was eight -- and it remains my favorite movie of all time), I think
DAWN is good, but also frustratingly unsatisfactory. The story is very
simple and doesn't really move the concept of a planet ruled by apes that much
further along from the "rise" that was depicted in the first of these reboot
movies. It's been less than twenty-four hours since I saw it, but I'm
mystified and annoyed by DAWN's conclusion. I'm not sure where it
leaves things. From what I've read there was a more definitive conclusion
but the director decided to leave it out. I can only guess that he wants
to leave the audience with more questions than answers. In that he has
succeeded. I look forward to the next installment now with not much more
than a hope that we'll simply get closer to what the essence of the concept
really is, but I'm not sure the next one will do that. It looks like the
next movie will not be set that much further in time -- and I won't say
more for those that haven't seen the movie yet. One thing the movie
has done for me is that it's made me tired of looking at naked
apes. The animators have gone out of their way to make these CGI
apes the most neutered animals to ever walk the earth but for me it's become a
distraction, so I hope that in the next one they'll at least put some pants on
these creatures. Also, let's get more apes talking, however
I doubt the next movie will be set any further than a few weeks after this
one, so it may be a long wait for anything resembling the original planet of the
apes concept. While I accept these reboots as prequels that will lead to
the world of the original 1968 film, the events depicted in DAWN have about as
much relevance to those in the '68 PLANET OF THE APES as a gang fight in the
streets of ancient Rome have to current US politics. So all I can say
after all the anticipation for this movie is, "Damn it all to hell, let's get
moving!"'
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Message: 73004 |
From: Tim |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
.html.html I found one NECA Caesar at my local TRU... They had sold out of everything else. I've been getting the books from Amazon cause the only bookstore left in town, a Barnes and Noble doesn't have them. They had the souvenir mag tho. Tim On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:06 PM, "Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Thanks Tim. I just checked it out and they'll be selling the set for $49.99 plus shipping (which I hope isn't too much) in August. I didn't pre-order it just yet but I will soon.
As for going to Toys-R-Us.... the one closest to me is in Asheville, NC and is probably about a 45 minute drive. I'd have to call the store first and make sure they had them and so on... I'd rather just order it on-line and have it delivered to my front door. It is the 21st century after all, but if you enjoy going to Toys-R-Us, more power to you. Frankly, I've never enjoyed the place, probably because I briefly worked in one in the late seventies where the manager once said in the breakroom, "Remember that 'Planet of the Apes' stuff? (He was referring to all the Mego toys.) Boy, did we have to eat that." That was a Toys-R-Us in Levittown, Long Island, New York. I wonder if it's still there.
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From: Tim apefan23@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 12, 2014 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Making of the NECA figures
Entertainment Earth has always been reliable...
On Jul 12, 2014, at 3:15 PM, " Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Anyone have a suggest as to what's the best website to order these from? I'm not one to travel to a Toys-r-us (that's so '90s now).
The look great, by the way, though Dr. Zaius is too skinny.
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To: PotaDG < PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 12, 2014 2:03 pm
Subject: [pota] Making of the NECA figures
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Message: 73005 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Interesting conversation... |
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Good talk about DAWN including Leonard Maltin....
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Message: 73006 |
From: scottgeorge40 |
Date: 7/12/2014 |
| Subject: Re: SPOILERS!! : "Battle" refs in "Dawn" |
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SPOILER SPACE I kept thinking "I hope there's a school bus!" :-) But I was disappointed not getting "Now, fight like apes!" (unless I missed it).
Oh, I have one more -- an orangutan telling humans the run. Leaving the theater, I told my wife made me want to go home and watch Battle. Scott
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Message: 73007 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
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My local TRU had 4 Caesars and only 1 Koba and 1
Maurice when they arrived, so I think that's how they come.
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Making of the NECA figures
I found one NECA Caesar at my local TRU... They had sold out of everything
else. I've been getting the books from Amazon cause the only bookstore left in
town, a Barnes and Noble doesn't have them. They had the souvenir mag
tho.
Tim
On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:06 PM, " Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
Thanks Tim. I just checked it
out and they'll be selling the set for $49.99 plus shipping (which I hope
isn't too much) in August. I didn't pre-order it just yet but I will
soon.
As for going to Toys-R-Us.... the one closest to me is in Asheville, NC
and is probably about a 45 minute drive. I'd have to call the store
first and make sure they had them and so on... I'd rather just order it
on-line and have it delivered to my front door. It is the 21st century
after all, but if you enjoy going to Toys-R-Us, more power to you.
Frankly, I've never enjoyed the place, probably because I briefly worked in
one in the late seventies where the manager once said in the breakroom,
"Remember that 'Planet of the Apes' stuff? (He was referring to all the
Mego toys.) Boy, did we have to eat that." That was a Toys-R-Us in
Levittown, Long Island, New York. I wonder if it's still there.
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<pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sat,
Jul 12, 2014 5:35 pm Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Making of the NECA
figures
Entertainment Earth has always been reliable...
On Jul 12, 2014, at 3:15 PM, " Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
Anyone have a suggest as to what's
the best website to order these from? I'm not one to travel to a
Toys-r-us (that's so '90s now).
The look great, by the way, though Dr. Zaius is too skinny.
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PotaDG < PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Cc:
pota <pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Sat, Jul 12, 2014 2:03 pm Subject: [pota] Making of the NECA
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From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Rise of the Dawn |
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After seeing "Dawn" again, I watched some of
"Rise" and it almost hurt my eyes, the apes in "Dawn" are so good. In the old
days the apes got worse from film to film. Now they get
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Message: 73009 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Spoilers |
.htmlSaw Dawn on Friday and will again today (Sunday). Spoiler Alert: The Movie Is Awesome!
Also a reminder that there will be a Planet of the Apes Marathon on the SyFy Channel today (Sunday) as well.
Go Ape
Al |
From:
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To:
<pota@yahoogroups.com>;
Subject:
[pota] Spoilers
Sent:
Sat, Jul 12, 2014 10:52:42 PM
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Message: 73010 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: "Dawn" box office looking up |
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Fox predicted Dawn's box office would be on par
with "Rise" ($50 millions; maybe they were being humble); best estimates were
that it would be on par with "World War Z" ($60 millions). As I write this,
estimates are in the $70 millions. Groovy, but still $20 million below the big
boys. It personally makes me sick that "Transformers" will probably be the
biggest hit of the summer. No, don't stop me! I have to say this
(>CENSORED<, he goes on and on about how "the Transformers
mentality" is ruining the movies, blah, blah, blah). I mean, don't you
agree?
Anyway, "Dawn" is doing better than the "experts"
predicted. Really, I thought it would do better. People really liked "Rise" and
I thought those catching up with it on home video would come out in force. But,
you know, (>CENSORED<, he goes on and on about how some people have a
block when it comes to POTA; they can buy mutants who can change the weather but
they find POTA silly, blah, blah, blah). Where was I? Oh yeah, "Dawn" is doing
better than expected but not as good as it should. So there.
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Message: 73011 |
From: mlccougar |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Making of the NECA figures |
.html.html .htmlYou could also try eBay... When Jeff mentioned that the DAWN figures were in stores, I checked if they were being sold on eBay and quite a few sellers had them available individually or as the set of three... I'm sure it will be the same for the classic APES figures...
In a message dated 7/12/2014 3:37:01 PM Central Daylight Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:
All I can say about that is I'd rather go to Toyz-R-Us and pick out a good one than order online and maybe get a bad paint job or something. If people stare at you at Toyz-R-Us, just yell, "What are you looking at?!".
From: Haristas@... [pota]
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 12:15 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: Making of the NECA figures
Anyone have a suggest as to what's the best website to order these from? I'm not one to travel to a Toys-r-us (that's so '90s now).
The look great, by the way, though Dr. Zaius is too skinny.
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Message: 73012 |
From: mlccougar |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Making of the NECA figures |
.html.html .htmlThe thing I found interesting is that he seemed to be hinting that NECA is going to be doing APES figures in the same style as the Mego figures... I hope they go thru with that plan, it'd be cool if they made figures Mego never made (Taylor, Nova, Lucius, more Gorillas, Brent, etc...) And if they make Mego style figures, I hope they're Mego style in that I want them to have removable outfits, not molded on clothing...
In a message dated 7/12/2014 9:07:19 AM Central Daylight Time, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com writes:
Here's a brief interview with the sculptor of the upcoming "Classic Apes" figures from NECA:
http://13thdimension.com/exclusive-making-of-necas-classic-apes-figures/?utm_campaign=13dimrandyint&utm_source=necafbgplus&utm_medium=social
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Message: 73013 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Spoilers |
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Strangely, SyFy is only showing the sequels.
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From: Alex Ruiz pota1968@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 3:44 am
Subject: RE: [pota] Spoilers
Saw Dawn on Friday and will again today (Sunday). Spoiler Alert: The Movie Is Awesome!
Also a reminder that there will be a Planet of the Apes Marathon on the SyFy Channel today (Sunday) as well.
Go Ape
Al |
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Message: 73014 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: "Dawn" box office looking up |
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I can't imagine why anyone would want to stay home and watch the World Cup when they could go to DAWN. Who cares about a bunch of guys kicking their balls around?
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From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>; PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 5:00 am
Subject: [pota] "Dawn" box office looking up
Fox predicted Dawn's box office would be on par
with "Rise" ($50 millions; maybe they were being humble); best estimates were
that it would be on par with "World War Z" ($60 millions). As I write this,
estimates are in the $70 millions. Groovy, but still $20 million below the big
boys. It personally makes me sick that "Transformers" will probably be the
biggest hit of the summer. No, don't stop me! I have to say this
(>CENSORED<, he goes on and on about how "the Transformers
mentality" is ruining the movies, blah, blah, blah). I mean, don't you
agree?
Anyway, "Dawn" is doing better than the "experts"
predicted. Really, I thought it would do better. People really liked "Rise" and
I thought those catching up with it on home video would come out in force. But,
you know, (>CENSORED<, he goes on and on about how some people have a
block when it comes to POTA; they can buy mutants who can change the weather but
they find POTA silly, blah, blah, blah). Where was I? Oh yeah, "Dawn" is doing
better than expected but not as good as it should. So there.
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Message: 73015 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Spoilers |
.htmlYeah, noticed that too. They must not have the rights to broadcast the original. Catching an early bird this morning of Dawn, then chillin with some classic apes the rest of the day.
Al |
From:
Haristas@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>;
To:
<pota@yahoogroups.com>;
Subject:
[pota] Re: Spoilers
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 12:44:36 PM
Strangely, SyFy is only showing the sequels.
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From: Alex Ruiz pota1968@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 3:44 am
Subject: RE: [pota] Spoilers
Saw Dawn on Friday and will again today (Sunday). Spoiler Alert: The Movie Is Awesome!
Also a reminder that there will be a Planet of the Apes Marathon on the SyFy Channel today (Sunday) as well.
Go Ape
Al |
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Message: 73016 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
.htmlSince it's a reboot there is no guarantee that there will be a Lawgiver or Sacred Scrolls or move to the east coast. While that would be great to see, they are really free to go in their own direction. ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <Haristas@...> wrote : I'll be seeing it again tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too, because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I want to see the development of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it. Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that the commitment of the studio remains high. |
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Message: 73017 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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But that's not what director Matt Reeves indicates. Again and again in interviews he keeps saying that these reboots lead to the original 1968 film, and I believe this is what Fox wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing about RISE and that's why there was a mention of the flight of the Icarus. Of course, this doesn't mean total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the world of the original film guides the direction of these reboots. At least that's what I understand based on the comments of the directors, and why should I doubt them? I watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a few days ago, and he said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next one with Mark Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film, what else am I supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these reboots, no matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the Lawgiver and the
writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN is that they seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their wheels. It leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be a trilogy, for these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie -- which is what Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
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From: JamesA1102@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 10:07 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Since it's a reboot there is no guarantee that there will be a Lawgiver or Sacred Scrolls or move to the east coast. While that would be great to see, they are really free to go in their own direction.
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
I'll be seeing it again tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too, because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I want to see the develo
pment of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it. Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that the commitment of the studio remains high.
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From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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That's what I wanted to ask Reeves at the Q &
A, but they didn't take audience questions: Does it specifically lead to the
1968 film or generally (apes with guns and clothes, mute humans)? But by the
time we get close it might be another director.
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:36 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
But that's not what director Matt Reeves indicates. Again and again
in interviews he keeps saying that these reboots lead to the original 1968 film,
and I believe this is what Fox wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing
about RISE and that's why there was a mention of the flight of the Icarus.
Of course, this doesn't mean total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the
world of the original film guides the direction of these reboots. At least
that's what I understand based on the comments of the directors, and why should
I doubt them? I watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a
few days ago, and he said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next
one with Mark Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film,
what else am I supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these
reboots, no matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the
Lawgiver and the writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN
is that they seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their
wheels. It leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be
a trilogy, for these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie --
which is what Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
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Message----- From: JamesA1102@... [pota]
<pota@yahoogroups.com> To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 10:07 am Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Since it's a reboot there is no guarantee that there will be a Lawgiver or
Sacred Scrolls or move to the east coast. While that would be great to see, they
are really free to go in their own direction.
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
I'll be seeing it again
tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D
again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a
fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too,
because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a
possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I
want to see the develo pment of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but
my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so
that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other
side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants
to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that
the commitment of the studio remains high.
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Message: 73019 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: The spirit of $73 million |
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They're estimating $73 million as Dawn's opening
weekend domestically. More or less since, well, Sunday hasn't actually happened
yet. Usually they overestimate so that will probably go down a smidge. Though it
would be cool if it went up to $76 million, since the 76 gas station plays a
role in the story. Early reports said the budget was around $120 million but now
it's $170 million. >Whew!< >Whew!< I'm sweating. Let me wipe my
brow.
International is negligible since it's hardly
opened anywhere (Bulgaria? Slovenia?).
Here's the sched:
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Message: 73020 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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They're definitely looking at it as more than a
trilogy (box office willing). The producer said they'll do as many as traffic
will allow (he threw out the number 8).
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:36 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
But that's not what director Matt Reeves indicates. Again and again
in interviews he keeps saying that these reboots lead to the original 1968 film,
and I believe this is what Fox wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing
about RISE and that's why there was a mention of the flight of the Icarus.
Of course, this doesn't mean total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the
world of the original film guides the direction of these reboots. At least
that's what I understand based on the comments of the directors, and why should
I doubt them? I watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a
few days ago, and he said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next
one with Mark Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film,
what else am I supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these
reboots, no matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the
Lawgiver and the writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN
is that they seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their
wheels. It leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be
a trilogy, for these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie --
which is what Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
-----Original
Message----- From: JamesA1102@... [pota]
<pota@yahoogroups.com> To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 10:07 am Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Since it's a reboot there is no guarantee that there will be a Lawgiver or
Sacred Scrolls or move to the east coast. While that would be great to see, they
are really free to go in their own direction.
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
I'll be seeing it again
tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D
again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a
fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too,
because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a
possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I
want to see the develo pment of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but
my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so
that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other
side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants
to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that
the commitment of the studio remains high.
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Message: 73021 |
From: James |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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Message: 73022 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
.htmlOf course, this doesn't mean total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the world of the original film guides the direction of these reboots. At least that's what I understand based on the comments of the directors, and why should I doubt them? That's my point. Since it is a reboot it doesn't have to literally (or narratively) lead directly into the first film, just something similar. So there doesn't have to be a Lawgiver or Sacred Scrolls. Nor does the action have to move to the east coast. ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <Haristas@...> wrote :
But that's not what director Matt Reeves indicates. Again and again in interviews he keeps saying that these reboots lead to the original 1968 film, and I believe this is what Fox wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing about RISE and that's why there was a mention of the flight of the Icarus. Of course, this doesn't mean total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the world of the original film guides the direction of these reboots. At least that's what I understand based on the comments of the directors, and why should I doubt them? I watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a few days ago, and he said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next one with Mark Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film, what else am I supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these reboots, no matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the Lawgiver and the
writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN is that they seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their wheels. It leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be a trilogy, for these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie -- which is what Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
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From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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Really too bad you couldn't have asked him because I think most old-school APES fans would like to get this nailed down. I know I would.
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 11:53 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
That's what I wanted to ask Reeves at the Q &
A, but they didn't take audience questions: Does it specifically lead to the
1968 film or generally (apes with guns and clothes, mute humans)? But by the
time we get close it might be another director.
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:36 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
But that's not what director Matt Reeves indicates. Again and again
in interviews he keeps saying that these reboots lead to the original 1968 film,
and I believe this is what Fox wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing
about RISE and that's why there was a mention of the flight of the Icarus.
Of course, this doesn't mean total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the
world of the original film guides the direction of these reboots. At least
that's what I understand based on the comments of the directors, and why should
I doubt them? I watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a
few days ago, and he said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next
one with Mark Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film,
what else am I supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these
reboots, no matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the
Lawgiver and the writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN
is that they seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their
wheels. It leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be
a trilogy, for these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie --
which is what Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
-----Original
Message-----
From: JamesA1102@... [pota]
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 10:07 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Since it's a reboot there is no guarantee that there will be a Lawgiver or
Sacred Scrolls or move to the east coast. While that would be great to see, they
are really free to go in their own direction.
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
I'll be seeing it again
tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D
again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a
fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too,
because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a
possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I
want to see the develo pment of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but
my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so
that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other
side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants
to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that
the commitment of the studio remains high.
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Message: 73024 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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Which producer said that? That's pretty interesting.
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 11:54 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
They're definitely looking at it as more than a
trilogy (box office willing). The producer said they'll do as many as traffic
will allow (he threw out the number 8).
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:36 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
But that's not what director Matt Reeves indicates. Again and again
in interviews he keeps saying that these reboots lead to the original 1968 film,
and I believe this is what Fox wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing
about RISE and that's why there was a mention of the flight of the Icarus.
Of course, this doesn't mean total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the
world of the original film guides the direction of these reboots. At least
that's what I understand based on the comments of the directors, and why should
I doubt them? I watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a
few days ago, and he said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next
one with Mark Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film,
what else am I supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these
reboots, no matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the
Lawgiver and the writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN
is that they seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their
wheels. It leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be
a trilogy, for these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie --
which is what Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
-----Original
Message-----
From: JamesA1102@... [pota]
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 10:07 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Since it's a reboot there is no guarantee that there will be a Lawgiver or
Sacred Scrolls or move to the east coast. While that would be great to see, they
are really free to go in their own direction.
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
I'll be seeing it again
tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D
again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a
fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too,
because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a
possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I
want to see the develo pment of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but
my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so
that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other
side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants
to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that
the commitment of the studio remains high.
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Message: 73025 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: The spirit of $73 million |
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Well, I'll be going to a 3:40 showing this afternoon, so I'll be doing my part to get it up there.
Also, before I went to DAWN on Friday, I sent $100 to Chimp Haven. Doing my part for the apes, real and CGI.
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>; PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 11:54 am
Subject: [pota] The spirit of $73 million
They're estimating $73 million as Dawn's opening
weekend domestically. More or less since, well, Sunday hasn't actually happened
yet. Usually they overestimate so that will probably go down a smidge. Though it
would be cool if it went up to $76 million, since the 76 gas station plays a
role in the story. Early reports said the budget was around $120 million but now
it's $170 million. >Whew!< >Whew!< I'm sweating. Let me wipe my
brow.
International is negligible since it's hardly
opened anywhere (Bulgaria? Slovenia?).
Here's the sched:
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Message: 73026 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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No, I disagree. Moving toward the world of the 1968 film (which is the reference to the original that Matt Reeves keeps saying, the '68 APES or the 1968 original) means they've got the iconic last shot of the movie, the Statue of Liberty final. I think that means Fox is obliged to somehow move the reboots in an easterly direction. That doesn't mean they will, of course, but I feel that if they don't, they're cheating the fans like me.
I was also just thinking that they may adhere to the story that Cornelius tells in ESCAPE, that of a several century long subjugation and enslavement of the apes by humans. That could be how the next film ends -- the apes lose the war and are looking at becoming slaves. The next trilogy could deal with an ape Moses (maybe one named Aldo) that leads his people out of bondage in like 2300 AD.
The possibilities are many, but this DAWN movie is sure frustrating when it comes to any hints about where it's going. (I don't think that's a spoiler)
-----Original Message-----
From: JamesA1102@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 2:04 pm
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Of course, this doesn't mean total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the world of the original film guides the direction of these reboots. At least that's what I understand based on the comments of the directors, and why should I doubt them?
That's my point. Since it is a reboot it doesn't have to literally (or narratively) lead directly into the first film, just something similar. So there doesn't have to be a Lawgiver or Sacred Scrolls. Nor does the action have to move to the east coast.
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
But that's not what director Matt Reeves indicates. Again and again in interviews he keeps saying that these reboots lead to the o
riginal 1968 film, and I believe this is what Fox wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing about RISE and that's why there was a mention of the flight of the Icarus. Of course, this doesn't mean total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the world of the original film guides the direction of these reboots. At least that's what I understand based on the comments of the directors, and why should I doubt them? I watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a few days ago, and he said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next one with Mark Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film, what else am I supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these reboots, no matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the Lawgiver and the writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN is that they seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their whe
els. It leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be a trilogy, for these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie -- which is what Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
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Message: 73027 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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"It's this grand, mythic, Shakespearean story that leads back to the world we know in the '68 film." (From the first link below)
Well, there he goes saying it again, that Matt Reeves..... Don't you wish you knew exactly what he's talking about, James?
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From: 'James' JamesA1102@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 1:58 pm
Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Daily update â‹… July 13, 2014
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Dawn of the Planet of the Apes has received overwhelmingly positive reviews. That's thanks in large part to director Matt Reeves, a lifelong Apes fan.
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Digital Spy UK
Even before you consider Rupert Wyatt's hit 2011 blockbuster Rise of the Planet of the Apes and its successor Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, Franklin ...
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Film School Rejects
This week's excavation of the bizarre history of television cartoons is Return to the Planet of the Apes, the only animated entry in the illustrious simian ...
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GoldDerby
Two years ago, "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" won the top prize at the Visual Effect Society. However, it was bested in the Visual Effects race at the ...
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HitFix
It's rare that a sequel is better than the original film, but "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes" joins "22 Jump Street" in pulling that feat off this summer.
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Message: 73028 |
From: jamesa1102 |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
.html"It's this grand, mythic, Shakespearean story that leads back to the world we know in the '68 film." Yes to the "world of the '68 film", but does it have to be an exact duplicate or just something similar enough? It's hard to say at this point. Only the future will tell. And who knows about the future? Perhaps only the dead. (Cue tear on statue of Arthur Jacobs) ;-) ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <Haristas@...> wrote :
"It's this grand, mythic, Shakespearean story that leads back to the world we know in the '68 film." (From the first link below) Well, there he goes saying it again, that Matt Reeves..... Don't you wish you knew exactly what he's talking about, James? |
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Message: 73029 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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This one. First question ("not just 3 pictures,
but as many as the characters demanded").
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:30 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Which producer said that? That's
pretty interesting.
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Message----- From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 11:54 am Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
They're definitely looking at it as more than a
trilogy (box office willing). The producer said they'll do as many as traffic
will allow (he threw out the number 8).
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:36 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
But that's not what director Matt
Reeves indicates. Again and again in interviews he keeps saying that these
reboots lead to the original 1968 film, and I believe this is what Fox
wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing about RISE and that's why there
was a mention of the flight of the Icarus. Of course, this doesn't mean
total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the world of the original film
guides the direction of these reboots. At least that's what I understand
based on the comments of the directors, and why should I doubt them? I
watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a few days ago, and he
said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next one with Mark
Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film, what else am I
supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these reboots, no
matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the Lawgiver and
the writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN is that they
seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their wheels. It
leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be a trilogy, for
these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie -- which is what
Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
-----Original
Message----- From: JamesA1102@...
[pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 10:07 am Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Since it's a reboot there is no guarantee that there will be a Lawgiver or
Sacred Scrolls or move to the east coast. While that would be great to see, they
are really free to go in their own direction.
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
I'll be seeing it again
tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D
again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a
fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too,
because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a
possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I
want to see the develo pment of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but
my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so
that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other
side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants
to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that
the commitment of the studio remains high.
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Message: 73030 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes" |
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I would say something very similar, but the Icarus that crash lands in 3978 will be one that wasn't on the first interstellar flight, but instead some "mission to Mars" where it met up with some kind of disturbance and a "sewage in time" that sent it into the future. Other than that, pretty much the same, though I still don't believe the modern franchise will go all the way to a remake of the original. What's the point of that? You wanna watch the original? Watch the original. It's pretty good.
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From: JamesA1102@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 3:23 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
"It's this grand, mythic, Shakespearean story that leads back to the world we know in the '68 film."
Yes to the "world of the '68 film", but does it have to be an exact duplicate or just something similar enough? It's hard to say at this point. Only the future will tell. And who knows about the future? Perhaps only the dead. (Cue tear on statue of Arthur Jacobs) ;-)
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
"It's this grand, mythic, Shakespearean story that leads back to the world we know in the '68 film." (From the first link below)
Well, there he goes saying it again, that Matt Reeves..... Don't you wish you knew exactly what he's talking about, James?
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Message: 73031 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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Thanks I missed that interview. Boy, am I glad Tom Rothman is not at Fox anymore. What a dip.
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
This one. First question ("not just 3 pictures,
but as many as the characters demanded").
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:30 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Which producer said that? That's
pretty interesting.
-----Original
Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 11:54 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
They're definitely looking at it as more than a
trilogy (box office willing). The producer said they'll do as many as traffic
will allow (he threw out the number 8).
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:36 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
But that's not what director Matt
Reeves indicates. Again and again in interviews he keeps saying that these
reboots lead to the original 1968 film, and I believe this is what Fox
wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing about RISE and that's why there
was a mention of the flight of the Icarus. Of course, this doesn't mean
total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the world of the original film
guides the direction of these reboots. At least that's what I understand
based on the comments of the directors, and why should I doubt them? I
watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a few days ago, and he
said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next one with Mark
Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film, what else am I
supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these reboots, no
matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the Lawgiver and
the writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN is that they
seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their wheels. It
leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be a trilogy, for
these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie -- which is what
Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
-----Original
Message-----
From: JamesA1102@...
[pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 10:07 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Since it's a reboot there is no guarantee that there will be a Lawgiver or
Sacred Scrolls or move to the east coast. While that would be great to see, they
are really free to go in their own direction.
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
I'll be seeing it again
tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D
again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a
fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too,
because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a
possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I
want to see the develo pment of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but
my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so
that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other
side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants
to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that
the commitment of the studio remains high.
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Message: 73032 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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So, what did you think of "Dawn" the second
time?
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:25 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Thanks I missed that interview. Boy,
am I glad Tom Rothman is not at Fox anymore. What a dip.
-----Original
Message----- From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 3:52 pm Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
This one. First question ("not just 3 pictures,
but as many as the characters demanded").
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:30 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Which
producer said that? That's pretty interesting.
-----Original
Message----- From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 11:54 am Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
They're definitely looking at it as more than a
trilogy (box office willing). The producer said they'll do as many as traffic
will allow (he threw out the number 8).
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:36 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
But that's not what director Matt
Reeves indicates. Again and again in interviews he keeps saying that these
reboots lead to the original 1968 film, and I believe this is what Fox
wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing about RISE and that's why there
was a mention of the flight of the Icarus. Of course, this doesn't mean
total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the world of the original film
guides the direction of these reboots. At least that's what I understand
based on the comments of the directors, and why should I doubt them? I
watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a few days ago, and he
said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next one with Mark
Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film, what else am I
supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these reboots, no
matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the Lawgiver and
the writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN is that they
seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their wheels. It
leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be a trilogy, for
these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie -- which is what
Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
-----Original
Message----- From: JamesA1102@...
[pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 10:07 am Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Since it's a reboot there is no guarantee that there will be a Lawgiver or
Sacred Scrolls or move to the east coast. While that would be great to see, they
are really free to go in their own direction.
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
I'll be seeing it again
tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D
again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a
fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too,
because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a
possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I
want to see the develo pment of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but
my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so
that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other
side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants
to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that
the commitment of the studio remains high.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73033 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Additions to Hunter's archive |
| Group: pota |
Message: 73034 |
From: goatbusters |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Re: more beneath spain cards |
| Group: pota |
Message: 73035 |
From: pota@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 7/13/2014 |
| Subject: Jackie Earle Haley's Birthday, 7/14/2014, 12:00 am |
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| Reminder from: |
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pota Yahoo Group |
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Jackie Earle Haley's Birthday |
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| Time: |
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- 12:00 am
(GMT-05.00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
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Kraik in 'The Legacy' |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73036 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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It played better the second time, but I can't say I liked it any better, but that's probably because of the darker, more fatalistic tone of the thing.
I also skipped around on a lot of RISE tonight. It's amazing how fast CGI is improving. RISE's is still good but DAWN's is better. I was watching some of Peter Jackson's KING KONG a week or so ago and was amazed at how its CGI is dating and badly, some of it even looking cartoonish.
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 9:49 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
So, what did you think of "Dawn" the second
time?
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:25 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Thanks I missed that interview. Boy,
am I glad Tom Rothman is not at Fox anymore. What a dip.
-----Original
Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
This one. First question ("not just 3 pictures,
but as many as the characters demanded").
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:30 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Which
producer said that? That's pretty interesting.
-----Original
Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 11:54 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
They're definitely looking at it as more than a
trilogy (box office willing). The producer said they'll do as many as traffic
will allow (he threw out the number 8).
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:36 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
But that's not what director Matt
Reeves indicates. Again and again in interviews he keeps saying that these
reboots lead to the original 1968 film, and I believe this is what Fox
wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing about RISE and that's why there
was a mention of the flight of the Icarus. Of course, this doesn't mean
total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the world of the original film
guides the direction of these reboots. At least that's what I understand
based on the comments of the directors, and why should I doubt them? I
watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a few days ago, and he
said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next one with Mark
Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film, what else am I
supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these reboots, no
matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the Lawgiver and
the writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN is that they
seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their wheels. It
leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be a trilogy, for
these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie -- which is what
Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
-----Original
Message-----
From: JamesA1102@...
[pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 10:07 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Since it's a reboot there is no guarantee that there will be a Lawgiver or
Sacred Scrolls or move to the east coast. While that would be great to see, they
are really free to go in their own direction.
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
I'll be seeing it again
tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D
again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a
fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too,
because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a
possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I
want to see the develo pment of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but
my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so
that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other
side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants
to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that
the commitment of the studio remains high.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73037 |
From: Terry Hoknes |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Digest Number 6473 |
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For anyone interested I have the new classic POTA action figures for sale as well as the new Dawn figures as well
Loved the movie !! Anyone think it was better than Rise ?
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Message: 73038 |
From: Dario |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: more beneath spain cards |
.html.html Mucho gracias!
Dario
Sent from my iPad On Jul 13, 2014, at 11:04 PM, "goathunter@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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Message: 73039 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: The Art of the Reboot |
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Nice when a blog lets you see what's inside a book.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73040 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Maltin's verdict on DAWN |
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Leonard Maltin has sure become an old fart, but I do agree with a lot of what he says isn't so good about DAWN (no spoilers). (Check out my comment below his review though. It's about something in his Movie Guide that has bugged me for years now. It's about time it got changed.)
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Message: 73041 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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You didn't like the dark tone? That's what I
liked best about it.
Rise's CG looks so dated now. Except for the
early, realistic chimps (Africa, Bright Eyes); those are amazing. I'm sure part
of it had to do with Dawn's bigger budget. Rise was an experiment. But it's
story and filmmaking will always make it viable (unlike a lot of these movies
that are just FX).
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:40 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
It played better the second time, but I can't say I liked it any better,
but that's probably because of the darker, more fatalistic tone of the
thing.
I also skipped around on a lot of RISE tonight. It's amazing how fast
CGI is improving. RISE's is still good but DAWN's is better. I was
watching some of Peter Jackson's KING KONG a week or so ago and was amazed at
how its CGI is dating and badly, some of it even looking cartoonish.
-----Original
Message----- From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]
<pota@yahoogroups.com> To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 9:49 pm Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
So, what did you think of "Dawn" the second
time?
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:25 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Thanks
I missed that interview. Boy, am I glad Tom Rothman is not at Fox
anymore. What a dip.
-----Original
Message----- From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 3:52 pm Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
This one. First question ("not just 3 pictures,
but as many as the characters demanded").
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:30 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Which
producer said that? That's pretty interesting.
-----Original
Message----- From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 11:54 am Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
They're definitely looking at it as more than a
trilogy (box office willing). The producer said they'll do as many as traffic
will allow (he threw out the number 8).
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:36 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
But that's not what director Matt
Reeves indicates. Again and again in interviews he keeps saying that these
reboots lead to the original 1968 film, and I believe this is what Fox
wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing about RISE and that's why there
was a mention of the flight of the Icarus. Of course, this doesn't mean
total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the world of the original film
guides the direction of these reboots. At least that's what I understand
based on the comments of the directors, and why should I doubt them? I
watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a few days ago, and he
said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next one with Mark
Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film, what else am I
supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these reboots, no
matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the Lawgiver and
the writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN is that they
seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their wheels. It
leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be a trilogy, for
these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie -- which is what
Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
-----Original
Message----- From: JamesA1102@...
[pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com> Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 10:07 am Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Since it's a reboot there is no guarantee that there will be a Lawgiver or
Sacred Scrolls or move to the east coast. While that would be great to see, they
are really free to go in their own direction.
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
I'll be seeing it again
tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D
again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a
fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too,
because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a
possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I
want to see the develo pment of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but
my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so
that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other
side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants
to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that
the commitment of the studio remains high.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73042 |
From: Tim |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: More press for my collection! |
| Group: pota |
Message: 73043 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: More press for my collection! |
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Just make sure they don't give out your address, Tim, though I think like me a fire worries you much more than possible theft.
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim apefan23@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: POTA group <pota@yahoogroups.com>; POTADG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 14, 2014 11:08 am
Subject: [pota] More press for my collection!
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73044 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
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No, I just mean that seeing it twice didn't make me like it more, only just the same.
And now I guess I need to drop......
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
Spoiler
I guess that's far enough -- because this really isn't that much of a spoiler...
Seeing DAWN again I noticed at the end that it was -- surprise! -- DAWN! Just as in the conclusion of RISE the apes literally rose and stood upright, the dawn came at the end of DAWN. Will this pattern follow with the next film?
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 14, 2014 11:07 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
You didn't like the dark tone? That's what I
liked best about it.
Rise's CG looks so dated now. Except for the
early, realistic chimps (Africa, Bright Eyes); those are amazing. I'm sure part
of it had to do with Dawn's bigger budget. Rise was an experiment. But it's
story and filmmaking will always make it viable (unlike a lot of these movies
that are just FX).
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:40 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
It played better the second time, but I can't say I liked it any better,
but that's probably because of the darker, more fatalistic tone of the
thing.
I also skipped around on a lot of RISE tonight. It's amazing how fast
CGI is improving. RISE's is still good but DAWN's is better. I was
watching some of Peter Jackson's KING KONG a week or so ago and was amazed at
how its CGI is dating and badly, some of it even looking cartoonish.
-----Original
Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 9:49 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
So, what did you think of "Dawn" the second
time?
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:25 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Thanks
I missed that interview. Boy, am I glad Tom Rothman is not at Fox
anymore. What a dip.
-----Original
Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 3:52 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
This one. First question ("not just 3 pictures,
but as many as the characters demanded").
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:30 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Which
producer said that? That's pretty interesting.
-----Original
Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 11:54 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
They're definitely looking at it as more than a
trilogy (box office willing). The producer said they'll do as many as traffic
will allow (he threw out the number 8).
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:36 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
But that's not what director Matt
Reeves indicates. Again and again in interviews he keeps saying that these
reboots lead to the original 1968 film, and I believe this is what Fox
wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing about RISE and that's why there
was a mention of the flight of the Icarus. Of course, this doesn't mean
total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the world of the original film
guides the direction of these reboots. At least that's what I understand
based on the comments of the directors, and why should I doubt them? I
watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a few days ago, and he
said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next one with Mark
Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film, what else am I
supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these reboots, no
matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the Lawgiver and
the writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN is that they
seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their wheels. It
leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be a trilogy, for
these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie -- which is what
Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
-----Original
Message-----
From: JamesA1102@...
[pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 10:07 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Since it's a reboot there is no guarantee that there will be a Lawgiver or
Sacred Scrolls or move to the east coast. While that would be great to see, they
are really free to go in their own direction.
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
I'll be seeing it again
tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D
again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a
fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too,
because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a
possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I
want to see the develo pment of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but
my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so
that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other
side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants
to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that
the commitment of the studio remains high.
<.html
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73045 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Opening final: $72.6 million |
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The final opening # for "Dawn" is in, $72.6
million. Not much different than the $73 million estimate. It's considered a
strong opening. The movie also made $30 million internationally from the few
countries it opened in (thanks to the World Cup). So the total is $103 million
so far.
Where does Dawn's opening place it among the
summer's elite?
1. Transformers - $97 million (currently #1
worldwide: $752 m.)
2. Capt. America - $95 million (#3: $712
m.)
3. Godzilla - $93 million (#6: $487
m.)
4. Spidey - $91 million (#4: $705
m.)
5. X-Men - $90 million (#2: $731
m.)
6. Dawn - $73 million
7. Maleficent - $69 million (#5: 669
m.)
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73046 |
From: Taebokitti |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Thoughts on DAWN |
.htmlI thought the dark tone added to the strength of the movie and I am not a fan of dark tones,but I thought it worked really well in Dawn. Elaine
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From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 14, 2014 11:07 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
You didn't like the dark tone? That's what I
liked best about it.
Rise's CG looks so dated now. Except for the
early, realistic chimps (Africa, Bright Eyes); those are amazing. I'm sure part
of it had to do with Dawn's bigger budget. Rise was an experiment. But it's
story and filmmaking will always make it viable (unlike a lot of these movies
that are just FX).
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:40 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
It played better the second time, but I can't say I liked it any better,
but that's probably because of the darker, more fatalistic tone of the
thing.
I also skipped around on a lot of RISE tonight. It's amazing how fast
CGI is improving. RISE's is still good but DAWN's is better. I was
watching some of Peter Jackson's KING KONG a week or so ago and was amazed at
how its CGI is dating and badly, some of it even looking cartoonish.
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From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 9:49 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
So, what did you think of "Dawn" the second
time?
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 4:25 PM
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Thanks
I missed that interview. Boy, am I glad Tom Rothman is not at Fox
anymore. What a dip.
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From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota
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Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 3:52 pm
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This one. First question ("not just 3 pictures,
but as many as the characters demanded").
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:30 AM
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Which
producer said that? That's pretty interesting.
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To: pota
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Sent:
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They're definitely looking at it as more than a
trilogy (box office willing). The producer said they'll do as many as traffic
will allow (he threw out the number 8).
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:36 AM
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But that's not what director Matt
Reeves indicates. Again and again in interviews he keeps saying that these
reboots lead to the original 1968 film, and I believe this is what Fox
wants. Rupert Wyatt said the same thing about RISE and that's why there
was a mention of the flight of the Icarus. Of course, this doesn't mean
total adherence to "canon," but heading toward the world of the original film
guides the direction of these reboots. At least that's what I understand
based on the comments of the directors, and why should I doubt them? I
watched an interview with Matt Reeves on Collider.com a few days ago, and he
said that he'll be working on the screenplay for the next one with Mark
Bomback. If Matt Reeves keeps bringing up the 1968 film, what else am I
supposed to assume? What is at question is whether these reboots, no
matter how many there are, will ever get to the future time of the Lawgiver and
the writing of the Scared Scrolls? My frustration with DAWN is that they
seem to be stuck in first gear and are just spinning their wheels. It
leaves a lot to be done in a third film, if this is only to be a trilogy, for
these reboots to be looked at as leading to the original movie -- which is what
Matt Reeves says they're supposed to do.
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[pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota
<pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent:
Sun, Jul 13, 2014 10:07 am
Subject: [pota] Re: Thoughts on DAWN
Since it's a reboot there is no guarantee that there will be a Lawgiver or
Sacred Scrolls or move to the east coast. While that would be great to see, they
are really free to go in their own direction.
---In pota@yahoogroups.com, < Haristas@...> wrote :
I'll be seeing it again
tomorrow, but because of the showing times I'll have to go to it in 2D
again. I don't care as I understand the 3D doesn't add much and I'm not a
fan of 3D anyway. I expect I'll like it better the second time too,
because that was the case with DAWN.
I don't agree that they should move too much further into the future with a
possible fourth film, at least not much further than a couple centuries. I
want to see the develo pment of a pre-Sacred Scrolls, pre-Lawgiver society, but
my frustration is that they have yet to reveal how the world gets destroyed so
that it looks like what it does in 3978 AD and how the apes get to the other
side of the continent. I just keep wondering now if Matt Reeves even wants
to think about that. The next movie has its work cut out for it.
Let's keep our fingers crossed that the grosses are big enough for this one that
the commitment of the studio remains high.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73047 |
From: haristas |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: A Thought Has Occurred to Me.... |
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As to how to link the old APES franchise to the rebooted one -- and at the moment I think it's a pretty good idea. I'd like to get everyone's opinion of it, so those lurking, please come out of the shadows. So.... what's my idea? Well, in the next movie....
BRING BACK DR. HASSLEIN! And not only that, but bring back Eric Braeden to play him.
Think about it. We're into an alternate but related universe with these reboot movies, prequels to, as both director's have said, the "world of the '68 movie." Dr. Hasslein is mentioned in the original film. In the original franchise he is a major character. Even in this rebooted franchise there still could have been back in the 1970's a Presidential Science Advisor named Dr. Otto Hasslein, and he could still be alive (as the actor that played him still is), and there's no reason why this character couldn't have survived the plague and would still be important to what survives of the government and still be an important person needed for his scientific knowledge in the face of the catastrophe that has occurred. Even if it's just a cameo, I think it would be great if they brought him back. And I'll bet Eric Braeden would be honored to return.
Right now, I'd like to know how many think this is a worthy idea, and how we might work to get the attention of Matt Reeves on it. We can pretty much guess what the next film will involve (I'm assuming they're not going to move too much further in time.) and it's worth at least a try. But if you think I'm just being silly, say so.
Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73048 |
From: William Burge |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: dawn keychains |
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73049 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: A Thought Has Occurred to Me.... |
.htmlActually I think the idea of bringing back a Hasslein (in any form) is great. I think this could be done easily and would be a nice off handed tribute to the originals. I would really like a full fledged villain to be honest.
But the idea of Braeden reprising his role doesn't seem likely unless he really needs the dough. From what I've gathered from interviews and appearances, he wasn't to fond of his short Apes stint. Perhaps that was because Escape was not a blockbuster (or 'big' movie) and getting a gig in the new PotA would sound more appealing to him. But what shape is he in and how will he be when they actually start filming in 1.5 or 2 years hence. Would the studios even risk depending on him? So a cameo, is probably the best we could hope for.
If it were up to me I'd bring in a new actor as a Hasslein. And make him even more evil than the first.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73050 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: A Thought Has Occurred to Me.... |
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I'd love that but they haven't really cameoed
anyone yet (except Heston on the TV). And Braeden doesn't like sci-fi
(he doesn't need the money). But I think he'd do it.
I'd love to see Jackie Earle ("Kraik") Haley in
it. He loves POTA and he's established in movies. And I won't rest until Katee
Sackhoff ("the harbinger of death" from BSG) is in it as the original "harbinger
of death" human that gave the apes that name.
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 10:34 AM
Subject: [pota] A Thought Has Occurred to Me....
As to how to link the old APES
franchise to the rebooted one -- and at the moment I think it's a pretty good
idea. I'd like to get everyone's opinion of it, so those lurking, please
come out of the shadows. So.... what's my idea? Well, in the
next movie....
BRING BACK DR. HASSLEIN! And not only that, but bring
back Eric Braeden to play him.
Think about it. We're into an alternate but related universe with
these reboot movies, prequels to, as both director's have said, the "world of
the '68 movie." Dr. Hasslein is mentioned in the original film. In
the original franchise he is a major character. Even in this rebooted
franchise there still could have been back in the 1970's a Presidential Science
Advisor named Dr. Otto Hasslein, and he could still be alive (as the actor that
played him still is), and there's no reason why this character couldn't have
survived the plague and would still be important to what survives of the
government and still be an important person needed for his scientific knowledge
in the face of the catastrophe that has occurred. Even if it's just a
cameo, I think it would be great if they brought him back. And I'll bet
Eric Braeden would be honored to return.
Right now, I'd like to know how many think this is a worthy idea, and how
we might work to get the attention of Matt Reeves on it. We can pretty
much guess what the next film will involve (I'm assuming they're not going
to move too much further in time.) and it's worth at least a try. But if
you think I'm just being silly, say so.
Rory
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73051 |
From: Ian Boucher |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: FYI: the Apes series is not racist |
.htmlHey all, just wanted to share that I got reamed out by someone on Twitter yesterday because I politely disagreed with her statement that the Apes in the Apes series are meant to be, in her words, "scary black people." I explained my thought process to her as well.
As a result, I was accused of completely denying racism in Hollywood and denying white privilege in American society, and outright called a close-minded white male, among other things, even though I compassionately brought up many race problems present throughout Hollywood during the exchange.
And this was someone I had built a good conversational relationship with on Twitter. Because of this one disagreement, I was literally written off. Just wanted to share this with some Apes fans. It's flabbergasting to me.
It's amazing how people can treat one another, even when we don't even really know each other. The Internet is supposed to be a place for progress. And the Apes movies remind me of that! -Ian Boucher
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73052 |
From: Stanley, Mark |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: Spoilers |
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On Behalf Of pota-owner@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 3:53 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Spoilers
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Any furture posts discussing the films that does not have spoiler space will be deleted.
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| Group: pota |
Message: 73053 |
From: Ian Boucher |
Date: 7/14/2014 |
| Subject: Re: A Thought Has Occurred to Me.... |
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